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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Zoomie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorindy View Post
    Now the traveling circus plops its tent down, does its show, and yanks it away to the next city. Treat the place like its an old apartment you haven't paid rent on in two months. They ain't getting their deposit back...
    "They" proved their point in 2008 and the Goodyear tire fiasco. "They" failed to take ownership in the mistake and could have cared less about the inferior product they put on the track that day. All they care about was the almighty dollar and placing blame elsewhere.

    That was the last time I bought tickets to a NASCAR race.

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    A.J. never did a burn out.
    I ain't quiet, everybody else is too loud.

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    The burn-out crap has really gotten old, and all series need to bring it to a close. I've got much more respect for a driver that takes a cool-down lap and acknowledges all the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDIndy500 View Post
    "They" proved their point in 2008 and the Goodyear tire fiasco. "They" failed to take ownership in the mistake and could have cared less about the inferior product they put on the track that day. All they care about was the almighty dollar and placing blame elsewhere.

    That was the last time I bought tickets to a NASCAR race.

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    We were talking about that yesterday and how that incident has effected attendance since and we noted that... Think what you will about F1, but they took responsibility and at least tried to make amends with the fans after their tire fiasco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nascarnation View Post
    I watched a bunch of pre-race shows and all I heard was guys speaking well of the track.
    The sanctioning body, manufacturers, sponsors, owners & drivers absolutely love it. Every driver that gives an interview & is asked about the track just gushes about the honor of being able to race there.

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    Jimmie Johnson's hero growing up was Rick Mears - he wanted to be an IndyCar driver. He respects IMS. "Fans" want to see the burnouts now, it's cool and smoke flies everywhere.

    Alex Zanardi made the burnout popular, blame CART and Chip Ganassi for establishing and/or allowing this stupid American tradition. I don't like it either, but in the few races where the winner doesn't do a burnout or backwards lap (Alan Kulwicki made popular and Rusty/Mark/Dale continued in his honor) he is now roundly booed by fans.

    Old School drivers like Rick Mears, Harry Gant, etc pulled in Victory Lane, stepped out of the car and got a drink of water and wiped off their face for the interview. Now, in both NASCAR and IICS we have drivers doing back flips, climbing fences (whatever that effeminate jump is that Will Power does) etc. even the old school drivers started that stuff in the late 90's (Earnhardt standing on his roof at Daytona, etc).

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    The first fence climb at Indy after the 500 in 2001 was followed immediately by a fence climb following the Coca-Cola 600 by Jeff Burton and his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Capua View Post
    The first fence climb at Indy after the 500 in 2001 was followed immediately by a fence climb following the Coca-Cola 600 by Jeff Burton and his team.
    Actually, I think it was just a few of the crew guys. Jeff is pretty class - he just pulled in Victory Lane, sans burnout.


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    Semi OT- Burnouts at the Brickyard

    As an Indianapolis 500 fan first and foremost, I was appalled at the Brickyard winner doing a burnout on top of the famous yard of bricks. It just struck me as being disrespectful to the Grand Cathedral of Speed. So it got me thinking, I only remember 1 Indycar driver to ever do a burnout after winning the GSIR. The late Great Dan Wheldon did one in 05 but was thoughtful enough NOT to do it on the bricks. Does anybody else remember if an Indy winner beside Dan did a burnout and what are your thoughts for or against doing victory burnouts at IMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIONHEART View Post
    As an Indianapolis 500 fan first and foremost, I was appalled at the Brickyard winner doing a burnout on top of the famous yard of bricks. It just struck me as being disrespectful to the Grand Cathedral of Speed. So it got me thinking, I only remember 1 Indycar driver to ever do a burnout after winning the GSIR. The late Great Dan Wheldon did one in 05 but was thoughtful enough NOT to do it on the bricks. Does anybody else remember if an Indy winner beside Dan did a burnout and what are your thoughts for or against doing victory burnouts at IMS.
    I noticed that also and was a little surprised. But at the worst, I figured it will just cost some poor person some extra time to go out and clean off the rubber from the bricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIONHEART View Post
    As an Indianapolis 500 fan first and foremost, I was appalled at the Brickyard winner doing a burnout on top of the famous yard of bricks. It just struck me as being disrespectful to the Grand Cathedral of Speed. So it got me thinking, I only remember 1 Indycar driver to ever do a burnout after winning the GSIR. The late Great Dan Wheldon did one in 05 but was thoughtful enough NOT to do it on the bricks. Does anybody else remember if an Indy winner beside Dan did a burnout and what are your thoughts for or against doing victory burnouts at IMS.
    do your think the bricks really care?

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    Someone said JJ crew went there and also wrote their name and the car number...
    I think he shouldn't have done that...

    But this was the best comment about what happened!
    the_race_gIRL ‏@the_race_gIRL Kinda makes me want to do a burnout and autograph on Jimmy Johnson's testicles. Way to go, NASCAR.
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    You'de think people would be getting burned out on burnouts by now.
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    I thought it was in poor taste and disrespectful, especially since it appeared to be preplanned. Poor taste and disrespect seem to be fairly popular these days........so way to go Jimmie!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BADGER View Post
    do your think the bricks really care?
    Good point. Let's celebrate Johnson's win with some sledgehammers on Monument Circle...
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    I would be concerned about kicking some of those bricks loose with the stupid burnout. Didn't they have to repair some last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    DESECRATE
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    verb (used with object), des·e·crat·ed, des·e·crat·ing.
    1. to divest of sacred or hallowed character or office.
    2. to divert from a sacred to a profane use or purpose.
    3. to treat with sacrilege; profane.
    If the shoe fits...
    I think spur of the moment celebrations are great, but to me there is no difference in seeing those tire marks on the bricks than seeing piles of dog dung on them when they held the Mutt Strut benefit this spring. At least the dog dung got cleaned up right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    Good point. Let's celebrate Johnson's win with some sledgehammers on Monument Circle...
    Wasn't it Kyle Busch who slammed the custom-made Les Paul guitar trophy like an insane 1970s rock star?

    Wait until we get to Martinsville. The winner can body slam the grandfather clock and shatter it into a million pieces...you know, because "the fans" like loud noises and wild celebrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11rowsof3 View Post
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    Old School drivers like Rick Mears, Harry Gant, etc pulled in Victory Lane, stepped out of the car and got a drink of water and wiped off their face for the interview.
    Sam Hornish also was like this.

    Nowadays, if you aren't acting like a jackass and saying "look at me", you aren't considered a real race driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Nowadays, if you aren't acting like a jackass and saying "look at me", you aren't considered a real race driver.
    I'd substitute "athlete" or "sports star" for "race driver."

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    I think Chad Knaus signed a brick that was a part of the yard of bricks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Sam Hornish also was like this.

    Nowadays, if you aren't acting like a jackass and saying "look at me", you aren't considered a real race driver.
    Funny, I remember seeing Sammy do the exact same kind of burnout at Chicalogand celebrating his 2006 title win. He even dinged up the nose cone where it pressed against the wall.

    I think he wanted us to "look at him".

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    Chicagoland ain't Indy.

    It'd be like treating the Normandy beaches like any other seaside tourist trap...just go ahead and toss your cigarette butts and beer cans into the surf, and have a wet T-shirt contest while you're at it.
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    Jackassery is location specific?

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    Jackassery is location specific?

    Geography has context, yes.
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    I decided to stop eating in protest.

    I've also walked away from my kids and wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BADGER View Post
    do your think the bricks really care?
    Good question. I have one too.
    If the bricks are sooooo precious to most of you, why are they part of the track to begin with?
    Have any of the bricks ever been replaced? I am honestly curious and ready to be bashed.
    .....right off of your head

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    Quote Originally Posted by steal your face View Post
    Good question. I have one too.
    If the bricks are sooooo precious to most of you, why are they part of the track to begin with?
    Have any of the bricks ever been replaced? I am honestly curious and ready to be bashed.
    You're missing the point. It's one thing if they just fall apart from normal use. It's another when you purposely do a burnout on them as a celebration is when you start to make people mad.

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    Good God!

    If someone "Threw Up" on the track someone could say they barfed on it on purpose... Even though in reality they drank too much...

    If someone pissed on the track one could say they pissed on IMS, but in reality they drank too much...

    If someone was thrilled to win their 4th Brickyard 400 and fondly recalls Indy 500 winners did a burnout on the start/finish line... And people really have a problem... Then some fan-antics need some therapy if they somehow think Johnson was dissing Indy.

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