And Barry Sanders. Though a good 'ol spike was good to see every now and then.Originally Posted by Doc Austin
And Barry Sanders. Though a good 'ol spike was good to see every now and then.
You do have to wonder what kind of outrage we will see if someone simply drives into victory lane like they had done it before. The whole purpose of donuts and burnouts is to get undivided attention on that particular car and that particular sponsor. I can imagine if Johnson didn't do a long burnout he would have been hearing from the marketing department of Lowes the next day.
Mostly I hate all of these "celebrations," regardless of what series they are in. I think they are all phoney, contrived and stupid. They are all carefully scripted so that the driver doesn't get out of the car until they are back from commerical, and then he's got on just the right hat, and holding just the right drink, and in nascar they put all kinds of advertising trash on the roof of the car. The whole victory interview is just a commercial with an endless list of sponsors.
Donuts are stupid, but they are even more stupid when it is not Zanardi doing them. Fence climbing is stupid, but it is even more stupid when it is not Helio doing it. Those guys invented those things so they can do them. Anyone else trying it just looks lameass.
About the only cool "celebrations" I can think of are a few times when Dale sr lost. He would grind his front wheel into the winner's door and leave a big, black donut on the car.
That and Graham Hill giving the beauty queen a long, wet, sloppy french kiss. I remember there was some outrage over that one. Who would have the kajones to try something like that today? Instead they lick the bricks.
"Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"
You got a problem with that?
It made me lots of money and gave me my claim to fame!
No way. Bill Broderick? Is that you for real?
He's now running a bar (Tavern at the Bridge) in Algonquin, Ill.
Who??
I've been known to drive past that place a time or two.
What Happened?
Who's got next?
Bill Brodrick - the NASCAR "Hat Guy" from years ago.
All this uproar for some bricks that can be replaced. Some of you appear to be more of a place fan than a race fan with your comments.
This looks like it's scooting as well.We had dog named Scooter once, but I don't remember why we named him that.
The reality is the numbers are dropping yet you call the deal 'ahead of its time'. The only end result that can be drerived from that is the series will be broke 'ahead of its time'.
Wanna meet for drinks?
I drive past there everyday!
You know, you might be stinking right on that one. They've created a beast.
Have you noticed while the winner is doing the "burnout," on FOX and TNT, they actually sponsor it...."The Chevrolet Winning Moment"
When Brad K. won the N'wide race, he stopped and grabbed the U.S. flag, and looked like he was going to do a nice "victory lap." That actually looked classy. There's nothing wrong with a slow victory lap to wave to the fans. But he only made it through turn 1 like that...apparently he couldn't resist any longer, and had to tear up the tires in the southchute.
Way to totally miss the point. It's the principle of the thing.
Earl Campbell's celebration was trucking over every damned thing from Tyler to Houston.
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I guess they will ho out anything they can turn a buck on.
They are eventually going to kill off people's interest with all this force feeding of the sponsors. A little bit was ok because someone has to pay for all of this, but now every damm thing is sponsor related. Johnson could not even get out of the car until all the Nextel and Crown Royal trash advertising was in place on the roof, the bottle of gatoraid was in his hand, and the he was wearing the proper hat to begin the dance.
The sheer, utter prostitution of the sport is absolutely disgusting.
It's not just a nascar problem, though they seem to have really mastered jamming all this stuff up our keysters. In Florida you pay $12 to go to a movie and while you are sitting there waiting for the movie to start they run stinking commericals and try to tell you that it is the "pre-show entertainment." Basically, now you are paying to watch advertising.
That does seem to have escaped a few people.
I prefer River Lee's in Dundee.
Burgers and Broasted Chicken at the Tracks in Cary is pretty good.I prefer River Lee's in Dundee.
I will have to take a look at River Lee's.
Maybe to a place fan but to me it is a few bricks that have been replaced before.
I abandoned what little hope I had when I saw an entire souvenir trailer just for Digger.
I ain't quiet, everybody else is too loud.
I'll plead guilty as charged that I'm a much bigger fan of IMS than of the NASCAR race there. Those bricks aren't just part of some racetrack. They are a symbol that connects the present to the past, evoking the history of triumph and tragedy stretching back more than 100 years. Memories of champions made and heroes lost reside in those bricks. They are also a reminder of the intensely personal ties many of us have with IMS. So many aspects of my life are intertwined with IMS, so many major milestones measured not by a calendar but by the record book at 16th and Georgetown.
In short, I think of IMS as a part of my home. I know not everyone does, but I wish they'd show some respect for those of us that do. Not to do so is the height of arrogance.
Place fan?
Guilty.
Unashamedly.
...and anybody saying Chicagoland or any other modern cookie cutter circuit is just like Indy is half a bubble off plumb.
Tell an F1 fan that the circuit in Bahrain is just as "special" as Monza, and you will be told to wind your neck in.
...a puerile junior-high zit-laden bloviating bozo loser blogger using third-rate scatological pseudo-humor talking loud and saying nothing.
F1 is not based off one track - it's essence is it being the top level of sport with the highest level of technology.Place fan?
Guilty.
Unashamedly.
...and anybody saying Chicagoland or any other modern cookie cutter circuit is just like Indy is half a bubble off plumb.
Tell an F1 fan that the circuit in Bahrain is just as "special" as Monza, and you will be told to wind your neck in.
c'mon Walt, nobody is saying that. The Chicagoland comment I made was about Sam Hornish, and how he likes to celebrate in the identical manner JJ did. Nothing more.Place fan?
Guilty.
Unashamedly.
...and anybody saying Chicagoland or any other modern cookie cutter circuit is just like Indy is half a bubble off plumb.
Tell an F1 fan that the circuit in Bahrain is just as "special" as Monza, and you will be told to wind your neck in.
Someday I'll be walking (or falling!) on the old high banks of Monza. I doubt I'll make Bahrain! Planning on a Spa/Monza back to back weekend kind of thing. Just need to find the right stagecoach to hold up....
Well, that post is just plain awesome.
I just asked JJ wth he was thinking, I will share any response.
For $1
I so agree with this. I didn't support Jimmie, I just said "he didn't start it". Honestly though, when you mention "not by a calendar but by the record book at 16th and Georgetown" - that is so true. I can't remember 80% of the stuff in my life, but the Indy 500 makes me have magic memory.
Example:
Family: When did Grandpa's mom pass away? 1993?
Me: No - it was for sure 1994, either June or July. I know it was the year the Mercedes showed up at Indy becasue we had got into a conversation about her old Mercedes she sold in the 80's. The Mercedes won and a few weeks later she passed away. I remember the chain of events and conversations exactly becasue of the Mercedes connection.
*not a dramatization. It is fact.
Every race I run in is in preparation for the Indianapolis 500. Indy is the most important thing in my life. It is what I live for. - Al Unser Jr.
Everything I ever wanted in my life, I found inside the walls of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. - Eddie Sachs.
To quote Little Al "You just don't know what Indy means." Being a "place" fan and a racing fan aren't mutually exclusive.
That can be said about the whole damn country too.
Bingo. Some people simply don't get it and refuse to learn about it. Post of the thread.
People who apparently didn't care about the burnout include Mr. Rick Mears. He called into NASCAR Now to offer his congratulations to JJ.
I believe he knows what Indy means.
A thread about respect has some people terribly confused. Imagine that.
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