Adderall is a Schedule II controlled substance. Just because the ADHD generation sees it as harmless doesn't make it so. Your casual comparison of it with cough syrup and Sudafed shows a real lack of knowledge.Originally Posted by ARROWZ46
I don't say this to imply Allmendinger should be put on the rack for his stupidity...but he should most definitely be engaged in a serious self evaluation with the help of professionals.
If you have a son who plays high school sports - there is just about a 100% chance a guy he is playing with and a guy he is playing against are on Adderall. It's everywhere. I know dudes who would bounce between Concerta, Ritalin, Adderall, etc as a stimulant who played numerous sports and whose bodies were just warped from the physical abuse.
I may be wrong, but I think if AJ had a prescription for Adderall, he would have been ok. Its the fact he didn't have a prescription, it was therefore obtained illegally and was not communicated to NASCAR is why this is an issue.
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So more information has come to light, in the form of an unnamed source that is allegedly close to the situation. I will say there has been a lot of discussion about HIPPA, and while I'm not a lawyer its seems like this source is giving out information that violates HIPPA, and could be subject to slander if not true.
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...&source=JAYSKICHARLOTTE, N.C. -- It is highly unlikely that AJ Allmendinger's positive test for amphetamines resulted from a single pill taken one time, as the suspended Sprint Cup driver recently stated, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com.
It also is highly unlikely that Allmendinger will complete NASCAR's Road to Recovery program, necessary for reinstatement, by the end of August, as the driver stated, the source said.
"That's not going to happen," the source said.
Allmendinger, who drove the No. 22 Penske Racing Dodge in Sprint Cup, was suspended indefinitely by NASCAR on July 24. He likely will need a lengthier recovery period, according to the source.
The driver said last week that the positive test resulted from prescription Adderall that he was given by the friend of a friend two days before he was randomly tested at Kentucky Speedway on June 29. Adderall is administered medically to control symptoms of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
However, the source told ESPN.com that Allmendinger's one-pill defense is not consistent with the test results.
Adderall can remain in a person's system for up to 72 hours, but the source said that in Allmendinger's case it was "very unlikely that one-pill usage one time would be detected after 24 hours."
I still maintain that AJ made a mistake and deserves a second chance.
An apparently opposing viewpoint in the same story.
"They're all going to be on their banned list," said Dr. Don Catlin, co-founder and president of Anti-Doping Research & Support Clean Sport and founder and the former director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab.
Catlin said that without knowing the dosage of the pill and the level of sensitivity in the laboratory testing he could not make an educated statement on whether one Adderall pill taken one time could produce a positive result. In general, Catlin said, Adderall would show in one's urine for a couple of days.
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Adderall is dangerous if it is abused, not if its used very sparingly (which AJ said it was used once). However, its a banned substance there they took the correct action. At least AJ manned up about it and personally feel he deserves a 2nd chance. If it were an illegal drug of some kind, then I would probably think different, it was just his ignorance that came back to bite him (and you know he wouldnt make that mistake again).
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I think some people are missing the fact that possession of a Schedule II drug without a prescription is against state and federal laws. Allmendinger did in fact do something illegal.
Like hell he did. He came up with some lame-azzed story about taking a pill from a friend of a friend so he could go on a bender. And as rrrr pointed out, possessing and taking a prescription drug when you have no script is illegal.
AJ's best-bet at this point, is to shut the heck up. The more he tries to make it seem like an innocent mistake, the more leaks will spring from NASCAR.
Kurt Busch hasn't been able to find a sponsor this season, I bet companies are not lining up to sponsor AJ. Affable guy, he can definitely bounce back, though. (Trite alert) It's tough in this economy.
So NASCAR has a "source" put out damning information? Allmendinger really must be crazy to think the good ole boys are ever going to let him on one of their racetracks again.
Wasn't caused by pot either, he was mentally deranged.Perhaps not, but there was that one guy that got stoned on pot and tried to eat someone's face off...
Of course, the "media" blamed it on designer salts (or whatever they're calling the new-fangled stuff) without any proof, just guesses...sexier story, I guess...
Wanker!
Yeah, and if that's what's being said publicly I can only imagine the closed door conversations and rumors that are flying around. Yes its nice that Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson have both said that AJ deserves another shot, but there is a big difference between saying that and lobbying their owner to give him a ride, or working to find sponsorship for him. I think in public a lot of people are saying positive things because no one wants to give the quote, "I think he's unsafe to be around and I don't want to be on the track with him." Or, "I support him finding a quality ride, I just don't think that will happen."
The odds of Allmendinger ever getting hired for anything other than a start and park team have to be low. I Him and Casey Mears can pal around at the back of the grid during driver introductions I suppose.
Wow. Really?
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Right on, Grizz. I made this same point on day two when someone tried to say that it must be something really bad because if it was innocent, the story would have leaked quickly. On the contrary, NASCAR is 100 times more likely to leak damaging info, in order to support it's actions. They have no interest in exonerating once they've gone public with any action, and every reason to paint the guy blacker than a crow at midnight, regardless of his level of guilt or innocence. It's their credibility they are concerned about, not any individual driver's career.
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Oh bruther...
And especially not some open wheel never was who has yet to win his first race despite having some solid equipment under him.
I believe AJ's initial chance at redemption will not come through IndyCar nor NASCAR. It will come through the world of endurance sports car racing. If AJ can finish the Road to Recovery program before Thanksgiving and be given an "all's clear" ok from NASCAR; AJ can put out the word he is available for the 24 Hours of Daytona (defending champ) and the 12 Hours of Sebring. Many of the post on this forum question if anyone will sponsor AJ. In the world of Grand Am and ALMS, most of the entries for most races need two drivers for the race. Most sponsorship deals will involve approval of the two main drivers for the season for each respective series. All of the teams need a third or fourth driver for the 24 Hours of Daytona, the 12 Hours of Sebring, and probably the 10 - 12 hour Petit LeMons. AJ's comeback will start by being "hired" (assigned) to one of the Michael Shank Racing cars for one of the events listed above to fill out the hours. It is hard to believe that AJ went from the 24 Hour of Daytona triumph to his current status this quick but a good performance in one or more of the above races may convince potential sponsors that AJ is "cured" of whatever the problem was. Another 24 Hour of Daytona win could propel him to either an IndyCar deal or another chance in NASCAR.
Now, that's really frustrating to see so many posts disappear (it's very hard to know how off-topic comments have to get before they start disappearing).
If some posts are split off to a new thread, can we please at least have an explanatory post from the mod in the original thread that mentions that fact (and maybe a link), so we don't wonder whether they were simply deleted and we don't have to spend time looking around to find them? That would also be a service to those who never saw the moved posts and would be interested to read them if they knew the existed.
If anyone is interested, there is a discussion of the origins of the film "Reefer Madness" (and US drug policy; it is half a dozen posts in before anyone mentions Reefer Madness) in Jamski's Off-Topic forum in Community. DIA, please leave at least that last sentence here, even if you insist that the rest belongs in feedback. It is on-topic here because people interested in this thread who saw those posts may want to know where they went or continue the discussion. Thanks.
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