If Mid-Ohio was one of 5 road course races along with 10 oval races on the Indy car schedule, I might tune in. But I'll be watching Pocono for as long as I can stand that.
If Mid-Ohio was one of 5 road course races along with 10 oval races on the Indy car schedule, I might tune in. But I'll be watching Pocono for as long as I can stand that.
Your wish has been coming true for over 15 years. When the IRL started they routinely had over 2 million viewers each race. Many of those people who don't like the sport have taken the action you wanted, because only a quarter of them still watch today.Originally Posted by Disciple
What else do you wish for the series?
As usual, you have cherry picked a sentence out of context to try and make a weak point. In context, I actually gave an idea for attracting actual racing fans:
"Meantime if/when IndyCar figures out how to market the good product that has evolved and the relative peace that could result, other potential actual fans might find their way in."
The kind of enthusiast to which I referred in your cherry picked sentence are the kind of folks who SAY they hate it and don't watch, but know more about it than even the most rabid fan. Instead of admitting they are a fan their dark obsession leads to generally vulgar graffiti-like trashing for no apparent reason other than their refusal to exit 1995. Those are the people who need to put their money where their fingers are and simply vanish.
-The Wishes The Marketing Approach Would Change Disciple of INDYCAR
Watching track dyers doing their thing @ Pocono is worse than boring, so I took a gander at the Mid Ohio race which was around the half-way point.
I wonder how outlandish it is to think that the TV ratings for watching the track dryers might be higher than watching the IndyCar race?
If you don't even watch IndyCar why in the hell do you even post here? Seriously just leave.
Not outlandish - realistic.
They definitely will be, but thanks to people like you, not like me
"Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"
Brian's Wish
Where's doitagain when you stoop to "people like you" comments? Do you award yourself the infamous "infraction" for such personal insult, or are you special? Why do you violate your own TOS?They definitely will be, but thanks to people like you, not like me
BTW: they're almost to the halfway point @ Pocono with weather moving back in, so it's nothing but flat-out oval racing on a driver's track going on and, for a "person like me", that makes Mid Ohio not interesting at all. Call me when Indy car racing returns to its roots come Fontana, k?
I'm right here.Did you report it?
What's the offense, again?
"The series may be hesitant to say it, but the day is here for everybody that loves IndyCar racing to link arms and help each other out. Anybody who doesn’t want to do that needs to find something else to do with their time.”
-- Eddie Gossage, President, Texas Motor Speedway, ICONIC Advisory Committee & TrackForum member
Pretty sure I'm not out-of-line in noting that people who watch and recommend races increase the ratings and people who don't, don't
I'm right here.
What's the offense, again?I don't post negatively in rev-ed's forum; in fact - and intentionally - I hardly ever post in it at all.Pretty sure I'm not out-of-line in noting that people who watch and recommend races increase the ratings and people who don't, don't
I posted my comments about the Mid Ohio race in this Direction forum in a thread that references Mid Ohio.
My comments concerned the Direction of Indy car racing and the boringness to me of yet another road race.
I made no comment that was derogatory to any other member.
So now guys like you act by banning me from rev-ed's forum?
Good job, boys.
As usual you made a statement that expressed your true wishes for the series. You want those who don't like the racing to leave. I merely pointed out that they already have. Surely you, as a professional media representative, have noted that trend over the last 15 years.
If you don't want your ridiculous statements 'cherry picked' from your posts, I'd suggest you stop making them.
Many have left. Many others love the sport more than they like the direction the series leadership has taken it. Those who left were quitters. Those who complacently accept the mediocrity that series leadership continues to produce are usually not on this board. Those who voice their displeasure with the leadership are bigger fans than most. Those who continually fabricate falsehoods and try to pass them off as facts are the biggest enemies the sport currently has.The kind of enthusiast to which I referred in your cherry picked sentence are the kind of folks who SAY they hate it and don't watch, but know more about it than even the most rabid fan. Instead of admitting they are a fan their dark obsession leads to generally vulgar graffiti-like trashing for no apparent reason other than their refusal to exit 1995. Those are the people who need to put their money where their fingers are and simply vanish.
Which shoe fits you?
The one(s) that:
-...has directly supported the sport with my own money, attendance and viewing for 53 years.
-...has directly supported the sport non-stop during ALL of its evolutionary phases without dishonesty or acting like a 3-year old in public.
That pair fits fine.
-The Needs A 4W Width Now However Disciple of INDYCAR
Can you describe "The Peace" in more detail? Do you mean the post-merge IndyCar Series?
Sorry for being a bit of an idiot. I started following AOWR in 1997 (due to the IRL, not CART). I threw a hissy-fit and quit watching when the IRL added twisties. I'm more mature now, however, and am graciously watching IndyCar again.
That's what I meant, but reading Track Forum you would think WWIII had broken out. Theoretically we are one sport now, though all the constant complaining that this or that or the other is not as good as champcar, or not as good as the roadster days shows there is still a huge divide in the fanbase.
We have seen the sport morph and change and grow many times since the split started, and ended, and we've had a lot of great racing. The one constant is how unhappy and how unsupportive the "fans" have been, no matter how much great racing they have been given.
We could use a few more gracious fans.I'm more mature now, however, and am graciously watching IndyCar again.
"Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"
I expected this exact response.
Some here may not fully agree with you on that point.
....and when they show up, watch, or spend as much money as I have over five decades, non-stop, in pursuit of IndyCar enjoyment perhaps they might be capable of fretting about such a point. Then again if they did the point would be without merit.
-The Lifelong Member Disciple of INDYCAR
You equate your longevity as a fan with your honesty? There is absolutely no connection between the two. Honest.
you're signature is quite strange... because the white flag is most used in IndyCar to represent a slow or safety vehicle on track
I have to ask. Are you typical of racefans in Houston? Or just Indycar racefans in Houston?
One might think that, if one only looked at the 12+ from Zap2it. It's more complicated than that.Pretty sure I'm not out-of-line in noting that people who watch and recommend races increase the ratings and people who don't, don't
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