In the Indy Lights with Delta Wing!
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ghts-proposal/
I hated the idea for IndyCar but I like it for Lights!
Edit: Looks like Swift does too!
In the Indy Lights with Delta Wing!
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ghts-proposal/
I hated the idea for IndyCar but I like it for Lights!
Edit: Looks like Swift does too!
Just wait 'till next year!
So the up and coming driver prepare for an Indycar ride in one of those?? Does anyone see any issue with this other than what ever they learn isnt going to transfer to the Bigs???
hmm maybe this is Plan B.
But how will driving the ********* in lights then translate to preparing drivers for the big cars?
EDIT
lol, my slang for the deltawing is blocked
I cant see it making the cut in Lights, it's not even remotely open-wheel.
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I say do it, there is ZERO interst in Indy Lights right now, no sponsors to speak of.....that series needs a serious jump-start, this would get people actually talking about Indy Lights which may be unprecedented.......
can you imagine the buzz before the Freedom 100 in those cars....would be pretty cool
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Yep. That series is in the most important place on the road to indy ladder and is the weakest link on the ladder. It offers nothing to anyone aside from a place for rich foreign boys to buy a ride. This would be a great jump start.Originally Posted by aaron5572
"Unfortunately, the business types who now permeate the sport don't share this same gut centered devotion. I can only hope that the truly addicted will prevail, and that the original spirit of open wheel competition will somehow manage to survive and prosper into the future."
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Just to point out, nothing in that article indicates that Nissan is involved in any way in the proposal.
Oh man, can't they just burn this thing? It's not an open wheel car!!!
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Great thats what the sport needs, a development series car thats nothing like the car you will be graduating to for training its future drivers. Sometimes its just really damn funny.
Shh.... come here.....Oh man, can't they just burn this thing? It's not an open wheel car!!!
Okay.... I'm going to let you on a little secret. No one else knows this. It's on the same level as the JFK assassination and the moon landing.
You ready?
Are you sitting down?
If... whoa I hope you are ready for this man... If the rulebook at Indy were to ever be completely opened up again, the first thing the car designers would do.... would be to...
close the wheels.
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"It's a pretty awesome car, but it doesn't take much thought to see the difficulties in messaging with a car like that in terms of driver development. We're supposed to mimic what the big cars (IndyCar) are like, although you can learn the things like racecraft and many things in most cars, but there's a bit of disconnect between it and a traditional Indy car."
Where are the front wheels? What is the weight balance? How does this prepare a Driver to drive the DW12?
It is a different form of racing altogether, if it is such a grand idea have it justify its own racing series not the ladder to drive Indycar.
You cannot wrangle chaos. You can only try to plan for it.
It sure looked good on the track to me.
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.....and around we go again.
Coming out with that story Nissan is trying to make it look like they are doing something impressive. They're trying to justify their involvement with the Delta Wing which may have nowhere much to go.
You're interrupting the ladder system if you insert a completely different car than an Indycar as the final step before the IICS. You might as well use the NASCAR inspired Silver Crown car.
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Dildowang?
Edit - Nope, that one still works.
LOL That there is funny!!
i wonder if the process is an invitation to all manufacturers or it's limited. if invited, i wonder if they are considering removing the tail fin or widening the front wheels which both seemed to be issues in the past.
The Delta Wing needs to be taking on traditional cars, or needs to be racing in it's own series with multiple engine and aero manufacturers involved. It's going to be a spec car in Lights, and while adding another series under the INDYCAR umbrella each weekend might help the series, the Delta Wing would bring in more interest than the top series. That's not a good look either.
I don't see ALMS working either. Nissan isn't going to want to run with the handicaps they were forced to run this summer at France, and who would want to risk their traditional machines losing to the Delta Wing?
I think it's a dead project at this point.
I honestly think Indycar will take a good hard look at this and will consider it. Lights is struggling right now and needs some attention, what better way than bringing in the Delta Wing? From a business standpoint, I think it would be smart to make the Delta Wing the new lights car. From a racing perspective it doesnt make much sense because how on earth will the Delta Wing prepare drivers for IndyCar? The D-W is nothing like the DW-12.
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Again, I ask: what happens when one of these blows a rear tire?
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I think that you're looking for an answer something like.......It would spin twice, do a double backflip and shoot straight into the stands! Besides, it has already been proven by engineering experts here at TF that the car will never make it around the 1st corner, so the question is mute. On the other hand, I would guess that a blown tire would cause the same issues that a blown tire causes on every other car.
Last edited by ArtVandalay; 08-13-2012 at 02:17 PM.
It would end up in the wall just like any other car that blows a rear tire at speed.
A ladder series is basically there to judge who is "worthy" of rising up to the top of the ladder and gives a chance for the junior drivers to prepare themselves for the top. The Delta Wing would probably do neither of these since the Delta Wing has nothing in common in form of characteristics to the DW12. In the European ladder the junior series is constantly adjusting itself to F1 so that the driver well be as prepared as possible once they make that last jump and the Road to Indy must also be just as dramatic in its changes. What's the point of running the Delta Wing in Indy Lights if it not preparing the driver for the DW12? Makes no sense.
We can draw attention to Indy Lights without sacrificing the skills and adjustments needed to move to Indycar.
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You are doing it wrong. Deltawang.
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Seriously, there is only one proposal that should even be considered. That is one where the current Indycar "safety cell" is the basis for the chassis, and the rest of the parts are either removed completely or replaced with much less expensive materials.
Whoa, that sounds like something they should do for the full sized Indy cars !
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