"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
Yeah, I think the P-3 came after the days when the Electra was shedding wings. I flew commercial a number of times on PSA Electras - I always enjoyed taking off in them because the four turbo props always seemed serious about getting the aircraft off the ground now - if not sooner. Eyeballs were flattened. Next to the Electras, the conventional jets took off like a bunch of hesitant wimps. But their wings stayed on.
The actual problem with the Electra was what was called "whirl mode".
The props would rotate on the gearbox connection to the engine ( they would pitch up to the right, then down to the right, then down to the left, then up to the left, if you catch what whirl means). They rotated around the gearbox shaft. This movement was then transmitted to the nacelle and wing. The wing was designed so stiffly that it wouldn't dampen the flutter. The NTSB set a max speed restriction on the plane while they tried to find out the cause.
They flew the airplane fully loaded and instrumented with sand bags in the passenger seats. They flew it into known thunderstorms and wind sheer. (How would you like to be the test pilots who flew that bird into trouble knowing that if you found the trouble you wouldn't be able to get out of it?)
Robert Serling (yes, the brother of Rod) wrote a VERY goog book on plane crashes and causes. He detailed the Electra incidents...
"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
No mystery here. C-17 over Alaska:
Beautiful Picture,,, Little Large,,, But Beautiful
Mahalo for Posting,,,
Yes,,, Yes,,, Tony,,,
Your Grandfather was a friend of Roger Penske,,,
Your Grandfather did business with Roger Penske,,, but
Your Grandfather never trusted Roger Penske,,,
was film'd showing this whole scenario unfold...
I will try to find it,,, scary...
Edit:,,, This Is Worth The Price of Admission,,,
While passengers balked at getting on these,,,
"flying cylinders of death,,,"
Now That's Calling a Spade,,, a Spade,,,
Last edited by BigWheelHawaii; 08-15-2012 at 04:32 PM.
This photo does a good job of showing the anti-shock bodies incorporated into the wing of the Bear...these tapered cylinders dramatically reduce transonic speed wave drag. Their shape and size acts to cancel the shock waves produced by the aircraft. The USSR was an early pioneer in their development.
They are still used on modern aircraft...
The fairings which cover the flap track jackscrews on the Airbus A380 and the Boeing 777 are good examples.