http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmv_h...eature=related (EMBED?)
Video says otherwise
Cant wait for may y'all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmv_h...eature=related (EMBED?)
Video says otherwise
Cant wait for may y'all
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Well, they also booed the foreigner who won the biggest race.
who acts like an arrogant crybaby to some...Originally Posted by Lurk
"when you no longer go for the gap, you are no longer a racing driver" Ayrton Senna
Probably due to his AMERICAN wife.
Sounds in that video like they went nuts rooting for Takuma-san Sato, who must be from Montana or Wyoming, to pass, and got bummed when he crashed. Then they boo'd when they heard Dario won again.
Perception perception perception.
"Beauty is in the eye of the Beer-holder."
38 G. RAHAL
83 C. KIMBALL
27 J. Hinchcliff
I root for the most talented drivers...which means I root for foreign drivers.
White sunglasses and red gloves...
"They" meaning all of them? Some of them? A small percentage of them?
Was it because he is a foreigner or perhaps some other reason(s)?
"The IRL's future should be good, but it can't be the grass-roots series Tony George envisioned. That was a wet dream." - Bobby Unser
Man, I got goosebumps just watching that again.
TK...the Lloyd Ruby or Rex Mays of our time.
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Stupid thread.
I root for the Americans first, not against anyone.
"You just don't know what Indy Means" Al Unser Jr.
I was there. It was noticeably loud. Loud enough that if Dario were a relative I woulda been pissed, loud enough to be embarrassing. As to the reason, sometimes Dario can be a dweeb and his wife can be annoying.
50 - Jason Leffler - Treadway Racing - G-Force/Oldsmobile
Which is all good. I don't see a reason why not to root for your countrymen if that is what you like.
But those wanting an all-American league...well...they can suck it.
I think this American driver thing is way over-rated. Americans like a winner plain pure and simple. Sure - we would love an American winner - and we will beat the proverbial dead horse on the subject between races - but come race day we almost always root for the person with the best combination of skill/luck and personality on any given day or over any given season.... We loved Zanardi, Montoya, Fabi etc. All things beng equal, I am sure we would all prefer more Americans in the field - but none of us are willing to sacrifice quality for nationality (that would be very UN-American).....
hmmm, The current indycar drivers I currently "root" for:
Hinchcliffe
Pagenaud
Kanann
Power
Servia
Barrichello
I'm happy to see Rahal and Andretti on the occasion they are doing better than usual.
Honestly, when there is an American worth rooting for.. I do. This "american driver" infatuation thing seems to be particularly prevalent in the same folks as the "All OVALS or it SUCKS" category. Seems all the xenophobia is wrapped up in a good ol circle of asphalt, catch fences and safer barriers. How convenient.
Last edited by Nigel Red5; 09-12-2012 at 02:04 PM.
The United States is a country of immigrants anyway, aside from the First Nations population. The ones of us who have been here the longest have only bee in this country almost 400 years. I don't see why we can't embrace foreign drivers who choose to come here and create their won American dream.
I am always amazed that this seems to be such an issue for some people with regards to Indycar drivers. Why do we never hear people complaining about all of the foreigners in baseball (The American pastime) ??
I root for the most talented drivers, I don't give a crap where they are from. I was in turn one yelling for Sato on the last lap at Indy this year, would have loved to see him pull it off. I was not happy that Dario won, but I did not boo him at the end of the race.
Bunch of Xenophobes...
I don't think I've ever met anyone that wanted an "all_American" league...though I have met some who got tired of watching the best U.S. talent go South...all they wanted was to see the best the U.S. has compete against the best from the rest of the World...
Umm...not quite...Aussies have historically been welcomed by the WoO crowds...and Aussies love it when our best sprint car drivers head down under during the winter for some racing fun...much of the xenophobia crap is a by-product of the split where certain CARTisans were looking for anything to put their nose up in the air about...as we've seen the past few years, using xenophobia to attack your opponent sells, whether the claim is true or not...
Ed Carpenter...2013 Indianapolis 500 Pole Winner!
That's because they were hoping that guy from Japan would win!!
Get your head out of your past!!!
I am amazed at how stupid some people are, you really believe that wanting RHR, Rahal, Marco, Newgarden, Hildebrand, Carpenter, Kimball and Clauson be successful in IndyCar equates to either a demand for an all-American series or dislike and fear towards Castroneves, TK, Hinch, and Pagenaud? WTH? Yes I have a bias towards wanting the drivers with the U.S. flag next to their name to do well but I'm also one of Hinch's biggest fans and was one of the loudest ones cheering in Turn 3 when TK took the lead of the 500. Funny how the popularity of Brazilian drivers in Brazil, Canadian drivers in Canada, Mexican drivers in Mexico, etc. never leads to claims of xenophobia! Some people just need to use their brain before making the xenophobia accusation!
Well...Emmo did push aside the milk for orange juice...
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I wouldn't call it Xenophobia. Granted I am sure some people do feel that way, but that's just a tiny, tiny minority in the overall IndyCar community. There is nothing wrong with cheering for one from a certain national background, American or not.
As for me, I feel no bias towards nationality. They're all racers so their of the same theoretical blood to me.
History of Indy Car racing:
AAA, USAC, CART, IRL, Champ Car, IndyCar
FC Bayern Munich: 2012-13 Treble Winners - Bundesliga, UEFA Champions League, DFB-Pokal
That's the spiritThey're all racers so their of the same theoretical blood to me.
I hate to be all high and mighty, but I just never even see country first in racing. It seems silly. Of course I pull for local USAC guys to get rides, but some of my favorites as a kid in the 90's were guys like Emmo and Boesel. Loved Jim Crawford, does a Scottsman count as an "evil foreigner" here in the States? I don't even know. I like good drivers, cool drivers, bad azz drivers, funny drivers - whatever.
I mean, if Al Jr and Boesel would have been side by side for the Indy 500, I would have been pulling like heck for Raul. Whatever, maybe I should just post "h".
Every race I run in is in preparation for the Indianapolis 500. Indy is the most important thing in my life. It is what I live for. - Al Unser Jr.
Everything I ever wanted in my life, I found inside the walls of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. - Eddie Sachs.
As do I every morning. Milk is for cereal
Just for gits and shiggles, when was the last American CART/IRL/IndyCar national champ? Maybe it's obvious but I can't recall it.
IRL Hornish (06) and CART Vasser (96)?
Different world. Bourdais is my favorite driver and I don't care one bit that he is not American. I root for good races.
It sure seemed like part of the fans supporting the Vision from my side of the fence...... but Ia gree, it was far from everyone with that view as it is in general. The oddballs always make a bigger fuss.
Nigel Red5 provided the answer but neither was a "national champ." They were each simply series champions.
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