However, Casey Mears, who has been locked out of a full-time ride in IRL and CART, qualified ahead of him (21st) in his first BGN attempt. Maybe CART owners should be paying more attention to home grown talent rather than the coveted foreign driver. Oh wait a minute, I forgot, they bring significant sponsorship $$$$$$$$
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He's in starts 33rd. BGN only uses one qualifing session just like Cup does now.
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When did Cup go to one qualifying session? I thought this was something they were just talking about.Originally posted by DavidM:
<STRONG>He's in starts 33rd. BGN only uses one qualifing session just like Cup does now.</STRONG>
[Note: I have since edited my original post since I thought BGN had two qualifying sessions.]
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They've been doing it since the start of this season. I just hope Mears & Fittipaldi know when to get out of the way when the leaders come around.Originally posted by Joe Fan:
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When did Cup go to one qualifying session? I thought this was something they were just talking about.
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33rd, huh?
One could only imagine how a GOOD CART driver would have done
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Well, that is pretty impressive. I can't belive he made it! Now if you excuse me I have to go eat some tasty word soup
I guess when you consider that the car he was driving was last weeks winner, well you get the picture.
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Ya, you know I mean I guess I was skeptical because Homestead is a pricision track, you got to lift the thottle get back on and hit your marks perfect in a stock car their that I didn't think he could do it first time out. But luckily he proved me wrong!
I haven't noticed. I haven't watched much qualifying this year, partly because I can never remember what channel it is on. I also didn't hang around for qualifying for the Cup race at Kansas Speedway.Originally posted by Buford:
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They've been doing it since the start of this season. I just hope Mears & Fittipaldi know when to get out of the way when the leaders come around.
Did you ever think you'd see Fittipaldi & Mears on the same track with a guy named "Buckshot"?
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Well, it wasn't Buckshot that punted him into the wall, it was Hank Parker Jr. Maybe Christian should have went fishing?
Amazing. Yesterday's open wheel stars (Foyt, Andretti, Rutherford, Al Unser, Johncock) were threats to go down South and win the biggest stock car race in the world. Today, it's news when an open wheel star actually MAKES THE SHOW in a second-tier NASCAR series. Seems like one type of racing has gained a bunch, and the other has lost a bunch.
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"Today, it's news when an open wheel star actually MAKES THE SHOW in a second-tier NASCAR series."
Good point...
You want to know why? Today's open wheel drivers have been racing winged computer scooters too long. The names mentioned above all cut their teeth in the pre-wing, pre-computer era. Lets face it, today's major open wheel racing is becoming too much of a niche sport--and a niche that doesn't exist in the real world. The skill to drive those cars is not very transferable to your basic race car anymore. They are all high downforce cars that generate 3-4X more downforce than a Winston Cup car. With the downforce and the weight of the engine located in the rear, drivers don't have to worry very often about driving a loose car on its edge.Originally posted by Racewriter:
<STRONG>Amazing. Yesterday's open wheel stars (Foyt, Andretti, Rutherford, Al Unser, Johncock) were threats to go down South and win the biggest stock car race in the world. Today, it's news when an open wheel star actually MAKES THE SHOW in a second-tier NASCAR series. Seems like one type of racing has gained a bunch, and the other has lost a bunch.</STRONG>
I think this is why sprint car drivers are making the transition to stock cars very well. They all have to manhandle a car around a oval without the downforce and driver aids.
It is time to take off the wings and lower the horsepower of the engines of these open wheel cars. This will make the driver more of a factor again.
Here is a great comment from Phil Hill I stumbled across in a Road and Track article, May 1976 p.58. Phil Hill road tests a Ferrari 312B3, roughly 10 years since he last drove a race car (Monza 1966). Here is what he has to say:
"This is a car you don't have to wrestle. It is beautiful, responding to the tiniest increments of steering, anything you want. Wings have a tremendous amount to do with it, of course. When I went to Nurburgring with the Chaparral and won the race the first time the car had ever been on the circuit-with an automatic transmission and in the rain as well-I was astounded at what the wing did to make the 'Ring not what it had been. Before there were the great leaps, with the cars so light everywhere and the drivers having to keep all these aspects in mind. In that sense, this Ferrari feels like a logical Formula 1 extension of the Chaparral to me. I can definately feel similarities."
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They ran the cars that look like regular cars when the stock cars today are more computerized and all and high tech. I remember a certain A.J. Foyt having trouble getting up to speed for the 94 Brickyard 400 race. Did he make that race I can't remember I know he had trouble finding speed.Originally posted by Racewriter:
<STRONG>Amazing. Yesterday's open wheel stars (Foyt, Andretti, Rutherford, Al Unser, Johncock) were threats to go down South and win the biggest stock car race in the world. Today, it's news when an open wheel star actually MAKES THE SHOW in a second-tier NASCAR series. Seems like one type of racing has gained a bunch, and the other has lost a bunch.</STRONG>
I wouldn't exactly say Casey's been locked out of a CART ride. He's never had an opportunity, true, but he didn't set the world on fire in Lights, either.Originally posted by Joe Fan:
<STRONG>However, Casey Mears, who has been locked out of a full-time ride in IRL and CART, qualified ahead of him (21st) in his first BGN attempt. Maybe CART owners should be paying more attention to home grown talent rather than the coveted foreign driver. Oh wait a minute, I forgot, they bring significant sponsorship $$$$$$$$
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If you're talking about guys who've been screwed... Alex Barron has been locked out of a CART ride.
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