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    "We have awakened a sleeping giant"

    Famous words from a past conflict similar to todays.

    It seems that in that conflict they learned the price that the "giant" would exact.

    Remeber though that in the case of Pearl Harbor that it was a military attack on a military target.

    In todays attack the cowards are terrorists. Terrorists attacking and killing innocent civilians. Not a military attacking military. Not that a military attack is "better" just that a terrorist attack is far, far worse.

    For too long the "sleeping Giant" has become complacent. We have lived a comparitively good and prosperous life, relatively unaffected by the strife in other parts of the world.

    Clearly today the "Giant" is once again wide awake. And very, very upset.

    Hopefully today will mark the day that common sense once again becomes the core principal in how we live our lives and make our decisions.

    Common sense in both our restraint in the short term, and common sense in our ultimate and ongoing response and treatment of these situations in the future.

    Despite the "nuke em" sentiment that we all feel right now we must use common sense in dealing with this attack in the short term. The terrorists would love to become martyrs by drawing us into this conflict. IMO we must resist, regardless of how hard it may be.

    On the other hand when it comes to ongoing response I believe the exact opposite. In the early days of our country we worried far less about microanalyzing every last effect of a given action. If it was a reasonable certainty that you had rustled cattle you didn't get a chance to rustle cattle ever again.

    Today, in our ongoing quest to be politically "correct" we have become little more than deer frozen in the headlites. We KNOW these problems exist - we know the headlites are bearing down upon us, yet we are unable to act.

    In my opinion we've become afraid or at least unwilling to take action where common sense dictates that action is warranted.

    I think it clear that it is highly likely that this is the SECOND attack on the World Trade Center by the same group. This demented group has taunted us for a very long time. Only by the grace of God did we avoid todays exact same scenario in 1993 in the first attack.

    Yet those responsible were able to not only continue walking the face of the earth but were able to plan a mass terrorist attack on multiple targets and carry out that attack undiscovered. These terrorists were not interested in simply making a statement, they wanted to cripple the country.

    They chose flights headed to California, which would have maximum fuel loads to inflict maximum damage. I am certain that we will find out that the last flight, the plane that crashed in PA, was targeted for the Capital or White House.

    Common sense should have dictated our response to these people, and others like them, over the many similar incidents over the past many years.

    Instead we've done little or nothing but rattle a sabre now and again.

    Today I hope we and our leadership have learned a valuable lesson, unfortunately at a horrible and tremendous cost. Once again we must start using common sense in addressing these issues with appropriate and reasoned response.

    This time there can be no indecision, respond me must . . .

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    great speech,
    lets hope that we can find these people and bring them to justice WITHOUT war.

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    The CIA and FBI have been all over these groups lately. I'll be very disappointed if it's the same group, but we have to be sure we get the real culprits.

    Good people have enemies, that's just the way it is. just because you see Palestinians celebrating doesn't mean it's even their effort that did it.

    Mad as we are, our leaders will keep their cool. We will hunt these perpetrators down, and there will be retribution. I want Justice, not just blood. I know I will get it.

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    220 - Wise words, we should use common sense. I think, between the lines, that you are saying we should take some sort of retaliatory action. Common sense dictates that too, and it should be done with EXTREME PREJUDICE. There is a lot of understandable, emotional bluster with people saying "nuke em" and such. I can understand the feelings. In a more measured tone, I would say we need to take military action and
    do so decidedly or today's events won't be the last. Too, maybe this is a wake-up call that this country needs to remember our Maker.

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    Finding these people and bringing them to justice is war. Just as their attack was war. It won't be a declared war. It may not be fought with jets, missiles, artillery, and tanks. It is a conflict, a fight, a battle that we must win. Words like "freedom" "liberty "justice" are tossed around too freely. It's time to show the world one way or another what they really mean to us.

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    We should tell these errant countries to rout these terrorist out that they have been helping to harbor, and they have 24hrs to do it THEN we start the bombing. Don't you think that would motivate them to rid themselves of those idiots before we strike? Maybe not. I think with logic. They all want to be martyrs (sp?). Hard to reason with those who won't.

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    Originally posted by mrc4578:
    <STRONG> Too, maybe this is a wake-up call that this country needs to remember our Maker.</STRONG>
    Exactly. Just to give one example, teen suicide rate and the teen murder rate are at all time highs, and yet they are making it wrong to tell them "You shall not kill" or (O horrors) say the word "God" at school.

    America: we are a great nation and we need to not just stand together but stand with God. He, not us, is the ultimate justice. His kingdom is infinitely greater and more powerful than any nation made by men.

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    First of all, when someone has unlimited resources it is very hard to track them. The government should not be held responsable for this. The Taliban(sp) is responsable. They harbor known terrorist and should be seen as terrorist themselves.

    Second, the FBI and CIA do very little counter-intelligence work. The NSA is in control of this.

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    Originally posted by StatMan:
    <STRONG>Finding these people and bringing them to justice is war. Just as their attack was war. It won't be a declared war. It may not be fought with jets, missiles, artillery, and tanks. It is a conflict, a fight, a battle that we must win. Words like "freedom" "liberty "justice" are tossed around too freely. It's time to show the world one way or another what they really mean to us.

    -StatMan</STRONG>
    If you think the government has not learned their lessons from Nam, then you are sadly mistaken. There will be a declaration of war. The governments hands get tied when a war is fought and not declared a war. We have many laws that go out the window once war has been declared.

    What is known as an assassination during non-war times becomes simply a casualty of war whe the act of war is declared.

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