Nice game today.
At least they didn't lose by 33.
Nice game today.
At least they didn't lose by 33.
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2008 5A Football State Champs
2011 Track State Champs
Where's Skolnick to explain the conspiracy
Thank God for soccer. (Did I just say that?)
IU beat #1 UCLA last night to make the Final Four for the 16th time in Jerry Yeagley's 31 years.
IIRC, their best player has been in some international tournament and will be rejoining the team next week. I'd look it up if I cared enough.
I read the local papers and see all the articles about the state of Notre Dame football and IU basketball.
It fills my heart with joy!
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Re: Notre DameOriginally posted by crispy
I read the local papers and see all the articles about the state of Notre Dame football and IU basketball.
It fills my heart with joy!
What, the fact that Notre Dame is on a hot streak right now? You do realize they've had a good string of games, don't you?
As far as IU...bad coaching. How else do you explain a meltdown like that?
Originally posted by R_Mears_Fan
Re: Notre Dame
What, the fact that Notre Dame is on a hot streak right now? You do realize they've had a good string of games, don't you?
Maybe he's referring to ND's thrashing yesterday to finish the season 5-7 -- their third losing season in the past five seasons.
There is no other explanation.
As far as IU...bad coaching. How else do you explain a meltdown like that?
Originally posted by Truth Detector
Thank God for soccer. (Did I just say that?)
IU beat #1 UCLA last night to make the Final Four for the 16th time in Jerry Yeagley's 31 years.
IIRC, their best player has been in some international tournament and will be rejoining the team next week. I'd look it up if I cared enough.
IU has won the last two matches in the NCAA tournament, without it's best offensive and defensive players
Two Hoosier players were called up to play on the United States Under-20 Team that will compete in the World Youth Championships in the United Arab Emirates, starting Nov. 28 . Junior Ned Grabavoy and sophomore Drew Moor are two of nine collegians named to the 20-man roster.
Doh! I didn't even check yesterday's score.Originally posted by Truth Detector
Maybe he's referring to ND's thrashing yesterday to finish the season 5-7 -- their third losing season in the past five seasons.
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And the IU bandwagon empties!
Have a very blessed day!
All I can say, as an IU alum, is--PHFFFFFFFFFFT.
It doesn't matter until January, when Big Ten play starts. If they stink up the joint then, you may P&M to your heart's content.
True, it's a lot more fun when they're kicking everybody's derriere up, down and sideways. But December does not a season make...
I thought IU was going to be decent this year, but Leach's injury sure seems to leave them exposed as far as having no big men.
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Originally posted by skypigeon
All I can say, as an IU alum, is--PHFFFFFFFFFFT.
It doesn't matter until January, when Big Ten play starts. If they stink up the joint then, you may P&M to your heart's content.
True, it's a lot more fun when they're kicking everybody's derriere up, down and sideways. But December does not a season make...
I'm an IU alum too.
December will matter in March on Selection Sunday.
I can P&M when I choose to. That happens to be a lot when I look at the state of IU basketball.
I had not seen the movie 'Anger Management' when it was in theatres.
But I rented it this weekend, and thought the Bob Knight cameo was great. 'You here for the Anger Management seminar, Coach Knight?' 'No, I'm here for the Sexaholics Workshop.'
Hilarious.
....not sure what to think about IU.
I think Davis needs replaced but who do you repalace him with?? Any coaching change and you're going to lose top prospects not to mention basically being uncompetitive for the next 18-24 months.
I'm old-school and believe in discipline....that said I appreciate the relatively few schools now-a-days that still preach 'fundementals' of basketball over show-boating, all in line with academics....somehthing Bob Knight was a master at.
Except in his own personal life.Originally posted by indyracefan
....not sure what to think about IU.
I think Davis needs replaced but who do you repalace him with?? Any coaching change and you're going to lose top prospects not to mention basically being uncompetitive for the next 18-24 months.
I'm old-school and believe in discipline....that said I appreciate the relatively few schools now-a-days that still preach 'fundementals' of basketball over show-boating, all in line with academics....somehthing Bob Knight was a master at.
Originally posted by PHJIndy
Except in his own personal life.
...perhaps you're correct.
I was and still am a Bob Knight fan though. And he put IU on the National map and brought them much accolades with a few balck eyes as well and further emphasized that Indiana was basketball country.
Why the rush to can Davis?
I think you've got to give him two more years after this year - give the kids he's bringing in a chance.
Besides, who are you going to get to take the job?
It's not like UNC where you've got famous assistants or alumni waiting in the wings, wanting the job.
Well, Isiah Thomas is available. Anfor Zeke.
It amazes me all the folks who want Davis out.
I mean, hello, it's been how long since Purdue was in the Final Hour?
We'd love a guy who can actually recruit players.
Ye of little faith! We've had so many years of late, where December has built up our expectations, only for the Big Ten season to deflate them with extreme prejudice.Originally posted by Truth Detector
I'm an IU alum too.
December will matter in March on Selection Sunday.
I can P&M when I choose to. That happens to be a lot when I look at the state of IU basketball.
Maybe, just maybe, it's going to be the other way around this year. Maybe the pre-conference games we're losing are a blessing in disguise.
Especially now that there's a $%#@&*! tournament (something that still makes me gnash my teeth), the Big Ten games are the only ones that really count. I don't care where they get seeded in the NCAA tournament. If anything, let 'em be the underdogs; they sure seem to play better that way...
Originally posted by mnkywrch
Why the rush to can Davis?
A better question is "Why the rush to hire Davis?".
IMHO IU is one of the top 5-10 basketball schools in the country. But they hire a guy who's never been a head coach before? Since you already shot down the NC comparison let's use Kansas. Did they hire some asst. coach or did they not go to Illinois and pluck an extremely talented coach with a proven track record to take over.
Why would Bill Self leave Illinois to go to Kansas? Because Kansas is one of the top programs in the country -- like IU.
I'm a Bob Knight fan because he:
* Recruited first class kids
* Made his kids go to school
* The inmates didn't run the asylum
* The players didn't whine to refs
* They played TEAM basketball
* He's a perfectionist
* He won't sell out to Nike or other player-whores
* He won't sit back and ignore all that is wrong with the NCAA
* He ran a squeaky clean program
Davis can't make any of those claims.
Oh yeah..Knight won a few games too.
Originally posted by Truth Detector
A better question is "Why the rush to hire Davis?".
IMHO IU is one of the top 5-10 basketball schools in the country. But they hire a guy who's never been a head coach before? Since you already shot down the NC comparison let's use Kansas. Did they hire some asst. coach or did they not go to Illinois and pluck an extremely talented coach with a proven track record to take over.
Why would Bill Self leave Illinois to go to Kansas? Because Kansas is one of the top programs in the country -- like IU.
I'm a Bob Knight fan because he:
* Recruited first class kids
* Made his kids go to school
* The inmates didn't run the asylum
* The players didn't whine to refs
* They played TEAM basketball
* He's a perfectionist
* He won't sell out to Nike or other player-whores
* He won't sit back and ignore all that is wrong with the NCAA
* He ran a squeaky clean program
Davis can't make any of those claims.
Oh yeah..Knight won a few games too.
...excellent post TD, I'm in your corner.
Maybe indyracefan is just a pup... for I.U. was on the national map long before Bobby Knight came to Bloomington. McCracken's two championships were a bit early for me but I grew up watching Jimmy Rayl and the VanArsdale twins.Originally posted by indyracefan
...perhaps you're correct.
I was and still am a Bob Knight fan though. And he put IU on the National map and brought them much accolades with a few balck eyes as well and further emphasized that Indiana was basketball country.
And that's coming from a hard core Bobbyball fan who still follows him at TT... BTW I'm happy to see that Bobby seems to be doing a much better job at being the Basketball Coach at TT instead of being "Bobby Kinght" as he did at I.U.
As disappointed as I was with the team's play during the last 4 1/2 minutes of Saturday's game I still saw improvement with an extremely young team. That was the number 5 team in the country that I.U. controlled for the first 25 minutes of the game. the same I.U. team that was never in the Wake Forest game. The choke on Saturday was the sign of a team that isn't confident in themselves yet. Losing Leach is a major loss for a team that was short on heigth to begin with.
I.U. did an amazing job playing with a 6'8" center and four guards and I saw plenty to give me confidence that things will be better by the time the big ten season starts.
On Davis... what coach could I.U. have brought in who wouldn't have appeared lacking in comparison to Knight? I really don't think that we had a chance at hiring Dean Smith. It's only because we followed Knight for so long that we don't like to see coaches call timeouts late in the game... everyone but Knight has always done that. Davis appears to be a better recruiter than Knight was. Now as Knight always did, all Davis has to do is learn how to get his recruites to play better as a team than as individuals.
Meanwhile I'll be spooling up the 1984 East regional semi-final between #1 Jordan led North Carolina and Indiana on the vcr once again.
IU looked somewhat better tonight.
Likewise I was unimpressed with Notre Dame. Me thinks their coach isn't long for ND.
I really like Patrick Ewing, Jr.
IU vs. #1 Kentucky a week from Saturday???
Last edited by Truth Detector; 12-11-2003 at 12:16 PM.
Dang it TD you beat me to it.
Yes Patrick did look good and so did #34... not gonna try to spell it.
Due to foul trouble we were going with 5 guards at times... it still goes down as a win so maybe that's the secret... NOT!
hey that's not you and I agreeing again is it??
Originally posted by Whosyer-Sparkplug
Yes Patrick did look good and so did #34... not gonna try to spell it.
Not sure of the numbers but I assume you're referring to Ryan Tapak. He saved IU tonight.
Due to foul trouble we were going with 5 guards at times... it still goes down as a win so maybe that's the secret... NOT!
hey that's not you and I agreeing again is it??
Hey, you're more fun to agree with than to argue with.
Yeah I guess that's it 23 minutes in two seasons before tonight I had never noticed his name in print before... and the way Hot Rod was saying it I thought there was more involved in the spelling.Originally posted by Truth Detector
Not sure of the numbers but I assume you're referring to Ryan Tapak. He saved IU tonight.
My last girlfriend didn't seem to think so.
Hey, you're more fun to agree with than to argue with.
Mike Brey will be the the Irish coach for a long time. He's actually down to 7 healthy players now.
The best Irish shooter had a 1-9 night and that's pretty much the story along with the lack of depth. Chris Quinn is a much better shooter than he showed tonight, but he couldn't put it in the ocean and then he stopped shooting altogether.
Unless they get healthy it could be a long year for ND.
Yes it's gonna be a long year for I.U. until they get tall.Originally posted by PHJIndy
Mike Brey will be the the Irish coach for a long time. He's actually down to 7 healthy players now...
Unless they get healthy it could be a long year for ND.
I am so sick and tired of ND losing to IU! Arrrrgh!
Time for a new coach already. I'm sick of the excuses.
"You just don't know what Indy means" -Al Unser, Jr.
Brey's done an excellent job at ND. Wait until all the players are somewhat healthy and see how they do. They're only five games into the season.
Odd that he expected all those things from his players but not himself. Knight was guilty of plenty bad behavior that he would not tolerate from his kids.Originally posted by Truth Detector
A better question is "Why the rush to hire Davis?".
IMHO IU is one of the top 5-10 basketball schools in the country. But they hire a guy who's never been a head coach before? Since you already shot down the NC comparison let's use Kansas. Did they hire some asst. coach or did they not go to Illinois and pluck an extremely talented coach with a proven track record to take over.
Why would Bill Self leave Illinois to go to Kansas? Because Kansas is one of the top programs in the country -- like IU.
I'm a Bob Knight fan because he:
* Recruited first class kids
* Made his kids go to school
* The inmates didn't run the asylum
* The players didn't whine to refs
* They played TEAM basketball
* He's a perfectionist
* He won't sell out to Nike or other player-whores
* He won't sit back and ignore all that is wrong with the NCAA
* He ran a squeaky clean program
Davis can't make any of those claims.
Oh yeah..Knight won a few games too.
Knight had his flaws. I'm sure Davis has flaws. Not recruiting a big man from SOMEWHERE is one of them.
But, to me, this sounds like the whining the folks in Kentucky always give about Tubby Smith. Heck, winning a national title barely shut those folks up.
No big coach is going to take the IU job. They all want a place they can stretch their legs - and that isn't going to happen at IU, not with the new administration. They want a coach they can keep under their thumb.
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