NASCAR suspends Shane Hmeil

[Jim Wilke]

Slow learner, this kid:

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) - Shane Hmiel was suspended indefinitely Thursday for violating NASCAR's substance abuse policy for a second time.

The 24-year-old driver was previously suspended for almost four months at the end of the 2003 season. NASCAR tested Hmiel again following Saturday night's Busch race in North Carolina and announced Thursday that he had tested positive for a banned substance.

Hmiel practiced his Busch car Thursday at Dover International Raceway, but was escorted out of the garage by several NASCAR officials before the second session.

He's currently 14th in the Busch Series standings and his only NASCAR victory was in a truck race last year in Las Vegas.

Hmiel is the son of Steve Hmiel, the longtime technical director at Dale Earnhardt Inc., who recently became Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s interim crew chief.

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[Gomer Simpson]

Too bad.

What substances are banned?

[Tony Johns]

Approved substances:

Jack Daniels
Budweiser
Miller Lite
Goody's Headache Powders
Viagra
Levitra
Enormous Turkey Legs
Pork Rinds

Non-approved substances*:

Absolut
Big Daddy's BBQ Sauce
Corona
Tenderloins
Cialis
Diet soda
Non-alcoholic beer

(* indicates only temporary status until such time as the associated companies secure enough sponsorship capital for "Official" status with NASCAR)












Sorry, couldn't resist.

[FenderFree]

Where does Boudreaux's Butt Paste fit in that list, TJ?

[Jakester]

You forgot

Approved:
Crown Royal
Busch
Coca Cola
Dasani (water)
Domino's Pizza
Minute Maid Orange Juice
Old Spice
Powerade
Maxwell House coffee

[Gomer Simpson]

LOL Very Nice

[nascarnation]

your results may vary, may cause dizziness, drowiness, and back and leg pain
not studied for multiple attempts per dose.......

[mattbholland]

What banned substance could he have been on during the race? I pray it wasn't alcohol...Maybe an upper, or ephedra? THC perhaps??

[Jim Wilke]

He said this last year:

Neither Hmiel nor NASCAR would specify the particular substances in question, but rumors surfaced regarding everything from marijuana to cocaine.

"Well, that's like most things, I guess. NASCAR is a talking sport. That's how a lot of people get things done, by talking," Hmiel said. "Rumors are rumors. It's not my spot to say what's what.

"There ain't but three, four people in the world that know what happened, and of course I can't speak on it, but rumors are what people that don't have much to talk about, talk about. They hurt at first, and my mom and dad told me not to read all the Internet stuff.

"Then, after about I month I said, 'Screw this. I'm gonna make this make me a better person.' So I started reading the stuff. I just have to keep doing everything I know to do, and hopefully I'll get back at it and get a chance to be a champion someday."

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[Tony Johns]

In general, since I occasionally meet and work with people in racing, I try not to make absolute value judgements about people.

But Shane Hmiel is a weasel.

And, apparently, a repeat offender.

He doesn't like my assessment, he's welcome to come try and kick my ass and then I can have him arrested on charges of assault!

[Z28]

Maybe he started hitting a bunch of home runs in the NASCAR softball league and was seen at Barry Bonds' house.

[mec]

meth...

[silva2]

Maybe an upper, or ephedra? THC perhaps??

You wouldn't smoke pot before a race (although if you had smoked it days before the race you could still test positive). You would drive really really slow.

Cocaine needs "reapplication." In other words it might be fun to snort a line and drive a few laps in a race car but you wouldn't want to snort a line and then race for 2 hours. Supposedly coke exits your system in 24 hours (so to test positive it had to be that weekend if it was coke)

Crystal meth is the only thing that makes sense to me. Truckers use it to stay awake and alert for days on end. Ephedra could be it but would they kick you out of the sport for it...I wonder.

If you get busted and aren't smart enough to stay away from it after that....

[Truth Detector]

What a waste.

[Lee Roy]

What a shame. He really is going to regret doing this, he has a whole lot to lose.

[Racewriter]

Don't let the door hit ya...

[Aero Dependent]

Originally posted by mec
meth...

Seriously?

Of all drugs and the combination of racing machines, this is the WORST of them all imo.
I was thinking weed. Heck, alot of people smoke it, to each their own. It surely aint the drug that meth is. Shane's been on NASCAR's **** list for a while, and it just wasnt for his prior. I thought maybe THC (stays in the body for up to 20 days or so, depending on your fat content) and thought he had some left over which showed up but that isn't the case and the effects of the drug are long gone.

However
Meth/speed (not coke) is a chemicly enhanced cocaine. Good stuff keeps you going for 6-8 hours a hit. Meth also is absorbed by the body in less the 36 hours, some times sooner.

Even days after a 'hard night' of meth, your mind still isn't right, and folks, thinking about someone getting behind the wheel of a 3,400 pound car and racing with others with your mind 'still adjusting/coming down (from Monday) is WICKED BAD

honestly, it sends chills up my spine.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see him gone from NASCAR for good. I know some NASCAR officials nad talk with them quite a bit, I'll post something if I here something.

Someone said alcohol. A recovering meth brain is 1000x worse then some alcohol in the body (from last week) showing up in a test.

Big whoa

[Saw150]

Where'd you read all that stuff?

[Aero Dependent]

Originally posted by Saw150
Where'd you read all that stuff?

Maybe I've lived it.

Maybe I teach it.

Your milage may vary.

[Radny]

I heard on the radio that Oregon has a large medical marijauna program run by the state. They apparently now have more than 10,000 medical marijauna users. So I'm thinking they could now sponser a car in NASCAR. Then it wouldn't be a bannded substance.

Randy

[Jakester]

Oh, forgot

Approved:
Stacker 2

[Whosyer-Sparkplug]

Oh banned substance... not band.

See I thought he just had music in his veins.

[irloyal]

Most reasonable test result would be for THC. It can reside in your system for as many as 30 days, and is detectable even when you attempt to flush your system with liquids. Additionally the THC chemical signature can not be masked by taking other OTC chemical/drug combinations.

Coke and Meth are rapidly passed through the system and are quickly flushed with large quantities of water, caffeine and vitamin C.

Got this info from a friend who I know was a doper and he knew what to do when he wanted to change jobs.

[silva2]

I can't disagree with anything said above about THC.

But if that is true and he got busted for the same thing in 2003 then simply staying away from it would have been really easy.

Unlike meth, coke or even alcohol, marijuana isn't addicting to speak of. So either that assumption is wrong (and it was another drug) or poor Shane is as dumb as they come.

Does NASCAR publish a list of banned substances or is this just another rule they make up along the way?

[silva2]

OK in a new article on ESPN's website contained the following:

"NASCAR first suspended Hmiel after a positive test in 2003. He was under suspicion for his driving in a race at Richmond, Va."

So this adds to the speculation. What drug could he be using during a race? THC ain't it. If you have ever smoked pot and driven a car (and I have) you go real slow and careful. You simply can't drive in a race stoned. There is no way. Your aggresiveness would be non-existant. Paranoid is no way to race.

So if it ain't weed then what is it? Meth is the only thing that makes any sense besides ephedra but I don't think that ephedra would make you drive in a way that would put you under suspicion. Maybe is it alcohol. That would make you drive suspiciously.

[bkeske]

Each and every one of the substances that have been mentioned are addictive, including THC.

Additiction is not about the substance, it's about what the substance does to a person, and how it control's that person.

It could be anything mentioned here, and one is as 'bad' as the other given a person's addiction to it.

Having said that, I don't know any social meth users, as I do social drinkers.

[Sean O'Gorman]

Originally posted by bkeske
Having said that, I don't know any social meth users, as I do social drinkers.

You need to pay attention to what is going on at some of those bars in your neighborhood.

[bkeske]

Originally posted by Sean O'Gorman
You need to pay attention to what is going on at some of those bars in your neighborhood.

Fortunatly Sean, I don't frequant bars any longer, but my neighborhood is full'of'm.

But if they have an addiction, there is a good chance I'll meet them 'down the road'

[silva2]

Each and every one of the substances that have been mentioned are addictive, including THC.

Technically true. If you look in a medical journal it will most likely say "mildly physcologically addictive and not physically addictive."

And yes what you say about addiction being a symptom of a larger issue is also true. My point is that THC isn't a drug that's hard to get off of and you certianly don't hear of anyone hawking their TV to get pot.

If Shane's problem is with pot (and I doubt it is due to the suspicision coming from driving "style") it's a much easier drug to drop that coke, meth, herion, nicotine.

[bkeske]

Originally posted by silva2
My point is that THC isn't a drug that's hard to get off of and you certianly don't hear of anyone hawking their TV to get pot.

Wanna bet? I've heard these stories.

Originally posted by silva2
If Shane's problem is with pot (and I doubt it is due to the suspicision coming from driving "style") it's a much easier drug to drop that coke, meth, herion, nicotine.

That may be true. Within my experiance working with addicts trying to recover, Heroin and crack have to be two of the 'worse'/toughest cases for long term recovery.

But they can all lead to the same results, including alcohol. And each can be tough to overcome given each persons situation with 'their' substance of choice.

So, I would not try to minimize any one of them being used by a person 'in' addiction, including 'pot'.