Once again the IRL event is being hyped as a night race...it starts at 8:30 p.m. (EDT) which is 7:30 Ft Worth time...it does not get totally dark until about 9:00 local time...night race indeed...
Once again the IRL event is being hyped as a night race...it starts at 8:30 p.m. (EDT) which is 7:30 Ft Worth time...it does not get totally dark until about 9:00 local time...night race indeed...
hOriginally posted by hdolan
Once again the IRL event is being hyped as a night race...it starts at 8:30 p.m. (EDT) which is 7:30 Ft Worth time...it does not get totally dark until about 9:00 local time...night race indeed...
Ok........
How long has it started at this time?
How many times have you enjoyed it at that time?
If the answer was at least once, what made you change your view on it?
He kani 'ano 'e loa kela. Ua 'ai nui anei 'oe ma ke kakahiaka?
"How long has it started at this time?
How many times have you enjoyed it at that time?
If the answer was at least once, what made you change your view on it?"
The first one was a night race...enjoyed the hell out of it...that's back when Stewart and Lazier put on the show...it now satrts too early...there are a few other issues also
I believe your complaint is with the track and the promoter. Perhaps you should drop Mr. Gossage a note.
When did it start back then?Originally posted by hdolan
The first one was a night race...enjoyed the hell out of it...that's back when Stewart and Lazier put on the show...it now satrts too early...there are a few other issues also
BTW, I though Lazier came from the wrong background for you.
Don't recall but it was dark...Lazier is fine...he's an American last I checked... Stewart was there also...remember him...
Originally posted by hdolan
Lazier is fine...he's an American last I checked
Now let's get AJ Allmendinger and Ryan Hunter-Reay.
BTW, there are still plenty of Americans in the ICS to root for. Not that it matters, I guess.
I'd prefer them to some I've seen...then let's take a look at USAC...
Foreigners racing at twilight; oh the humanity.
"Foreigners racing at twilight; oh the humanity."
Wrong...it's advertised as a night race it isn't...truth in advertisement...is it a night race or not...
I call it 7:30 at night.Originally posted by hdolan
"Foreigners racing at twilight; oh the humanity."
Wrong...it's advertised as a night race it isn't...truth in advertisement...is it a night race or not...
I don't know if there's anyone in the worl who would call it 7:30 in the afternoon or 7:30 at twilight.
BTW, if it ends after 9:00, then it ends under the lights at NIGHT, correct? Then I would definitely consider that a night race.
It's advertised correctly. Everyone goes home at night.Originally posted by hdolan
"Foreigners racing at twilight; oh the humanity."
Wrong...it's advertised as a night race it isn't...truth in advertisement...is it a night race or not...
I assume the early start time has something to with the tv time?
Howard, i always prefered the Boat and Ray lawn mowing duet. Man, wasnt that the start of some great racing. That still continues, and has gotten even better!
"OWRS did not return phone calls."
“Howard, i always prefered the Boat and Ray lawn mowing duet. Man, wasnt that the start of some great racing. That still continues, and has gotten even better!â€
No it hasn’t…
“BTW, if it ends after 9:00, then it ends under the lights at NIGHT, correct? Then I would definitely consider that a night race.â€
Of course you would…
It would be a night race if we would get rid of that blasted Daylight savings time.
Stupidest notion ever.
I'm talking high banks man. Texas - 24 degrees. - Kenny Brack
LOL, this has got to be the silliest thread in a silly silly silly world of forums.
Can't advertise it as a nite race either. lmfao,
rh
I find your consternation to be kind of entertaining...Originally posted by hdolan
Once again the IRL event is being hyped as a night race...it starts at 8:30 p.m. (EDT) which is 7:30 Ft Worth time...it does not get totally dark until about 9:00 local time...night race indeed...
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The race begins at 7:45 CDT. Let's look at when the race will finish if we judge the past few race times.
2004 - 1:53 race time + start time = finish time of 9:38 CDT.
2003 - 1:43 race time + start time = finish time of 9:28 CDT.
2002 - 1:45 race time + start time = finish time of 9:30 CDT.
2001 - 1:55 race time + start time = finish time of 9:40 CDT.
Yes, the entire race won't be dark, but at 7:45, the sun will be behind the grandstands and probably about half the race will be dark. There aren't too many races in any series that are entirely dark for the whole running. I don't think there are too many fans out there who would argue this is a "day" race.
"Yes, the entire race won't be dark, but at 7:45, the sun will be behind the grandstands and probably about half the race will be dark. "
1/2 of the race will not be in the dark unless a lot of yellow is shown...period..7:45 is still quite bright here in Texas...sorry...
"I find your consternation to be kind of entertaining... "
Thank you...is it a night race...
Even though there is no question mark, I'll assume this is a question. Yes, it will be a night race. If you want to bring up races that aren't night races, look at Nashville last year.Originally posted by hdolan
"I find your consternation to be kind of entertaining... "
Thank you...is it a night race...
You are assuming it is a clear night and that the grandstands don't block any of the sun?Originally posted by hdolan
"Yes, the entire race won't be dark, but at 7:45, the sun will be behind the grandstands and probably about half the race will be dark. "
1/2 of the race will not be in the dark unless a lot of yellow is shown...period..7:45 is still quite bright here in Texas...sorry...
Now now hdolan, did they advertise it s a dark race or night race, beause:Originally posted by hdolan
"Yes, the entire race won't be dark, but at 7:45, the sun will be behind the grandstands and probably about half the race will be dark. "
1/2 of the race will not be in the dark unless a lot of yellow is shown...period..7:45 is still quite bright here in Texas...sorry...
The dictionary says that Night begins at SUnset but it is especially night when it is dark.
night n.
1. The period between sunset and sunrise, especially the hours of darkness.
Maybe your issue is with the national weather service and websters
Saturday June 11, 2005
Sunset: 8:36 PM CT
01:53:24.1239
The race will go green about say , just a guess, 7:50, so it it is 46 minutes until the official NWS beginning of night.
Last years race ran about 1 hour and 4 minutes during "night" and 49 minutes during day, or perhaps dusk.
Give or take a couple minutes.
Now I can watch my nightly news at 6 here, so let's email all networks exposing their fraudulent use of the term night, even worse the night programs start at 7.
who crap, just thought of the biggest fraud of all time, Monday Night anything, such as Footbal, Baseball.
What about Hockey Night, is that after dark.
Sorry gotta run to the bait shop and get my money back on some night crawlers. return my midnight black car, my wife's nighties, it's gonna be a heck of a nite...
gnite...crap i can walk without a flashlight, gday......goodtwilite...darn, have a good one, mabe 2
rh
Originally posted by hoop-98
LOL, this has got to be the silliest thread in a silly silly silly world of forums.
Can't advertise it as a nite race either. lmfao,
rh
How about making it a Knight race? Anyone seen Hasselhoff?
lol, I feel so wounded HD, now if you agreed we might have a problem.
So simpler for you, the race is run more during nigh time than day time.
Neither night or day is precisely linked to the level of illumination.
If you have an alternate view, on these assertions I'd love to hear it.
Hey it's bingo nite tomorrow at the church, see ya there at 7:30.
rh
According to Webster's dictonary, a definition of the word night is from sundown of the current day to sunup of the following day.
U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Justin, Denton County, Texas (longitude W97.3, latitude N33.1):
Saturday
11 June 2005 Central Daylight Time
SUN
Begin civil twilight 5:51 a.m.
Sunrise 6:20 a.m.
Sun transit 1:29 p.m.
Sunset 8:38 p.m.
End civil twilight 9:07 p.m.
With the official Naval Observatory sunset time of 8:38 p.m., any racing after 8:38 p.m. would cause the race to end during a time period falling within the Webster's definition of night. The race can therefore legally be called a nighttime race.
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Can anyone spare a question mark for Dolan?
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Molon Labe!
Someone kill me, please.
"So simpler for you, the race is run more during nigh time than day time. "
No it isn't...saying it does doesn't make it so...it will not be totally dark until about 9:00 PM...
Look up night Howard and show me where that is = to total darkness.
Two questions.
1. Is the websters definition of night (sunset to sunrise) acceptable to you?
The second question is conditional on a Yes replay to the first. If you believe your definition overrides Webster, there is no point.
2. Is it not true that more of the race runs after sunset than before it?
last thought, some races run under a full moon and are not totally dark, I wonder if they are night races.
rh
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