From Jayski:
Not the big percentage increases that the IRL is showing this year, but Fox seems happy.UPDATE: Fox announced record-setting ratings for Cup events this year. Fox reported a 7% increase in ratings to a 6.0 from last season. Fox averaged 9.6 million viewers per race, about 600,000 more than last year. Seven races had record ratings this season: Daytona, California, Bristol, Talladega, Charlotte, Pocono and Sonoma.(News Record)(6-29-2005)
DVR . . . . Life is too short to watch commercials.
good for NASCAR.. Glad i found something else to watch in place of Nascar.
If you're offering cash,
I'll take 7% of 9.6 million over 50% of 1 million most days.
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I am a small part of that number.
It's also interesting to note that since the Craftsman Truck Series races have been on Speed channel their ratings have increased year over year.
I guess if you put things on that people want to see, the ratings will follow.
I wonder if Dale Jr. having a bad year has a bearing one way or the other? I would think that if he was in the top ten that ratings might possibly be even higher.
That is a bit odd, but understandable. CTS used to be on ESPN, even when the new TV package came out. However, I think they were so ticked off about losing the Cup package, they didn't give a darn about the CTS package. That was also when ESPN was having that battle where they gave up their credentials and wouldn't/couldn't broadcast from inside the track, or show highlights except for still photos (unless it was on the "news," aka Sportscenter). If I recall, they dumped the trucks over to ESPN2 and ignored it. So much so that SPEED bid to take it over. ESPN I remember, gave it to them a year early.Originally Posted by jdessar
And all without you-know-who.
Outstanding job FOX!
As I recall, there were many bold predictions at the beginning of the year that the TV ratings would be down due to the races prior to the "Chase" wouldn't mean anything.
More bold predictions of NASCAR's demise down the old toilet.
For starters, the increase is only 7% and the last few races have not been blockbusters. Couple that with the possibility that some big names might miss 'The Chase' and we'll see what the season looks like when it is all over. As it stands right now, Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr. and Kenseth will miss 'The Chase'.
As I recall, weren't you one of the people predicting that TV ratings would be down due to the races before the "Chase" not meaning anything?
I'm sorry, but this has to be the funniest statement I've read in a long time.
How many sports/series these days are seeing increases in ratings?
Only 7%
Let's see how happy Fox is when it's time to write that check.....
the man in expensive shoes
Take the record ratings for the first few races out of the mix and I am right. Once the reality of 'The Chase' sunk in, ratings began to slip. And how did Sonoma set a record when the initial report said the rating was lower than a year ago? And how about this report:
So prior to Sonoma, ratings were averaging 6.1 and up 5% and then we're told "Fox announced record-setting ratings for Cup events this year. Fox reported a 7% increase in ratings to a 6.0 from last season. Fox averaged 9.6 million viewers per race, about 600,000 more than last year."As Fox prepares to air its final Nextel Cup race of the season on Sunday, the network says it is on the verge of setting an all-time high for its regular season broadcasts. Fox says it is averaging a 6.1 rating and a 14 market share for its first 11 events (through the June 12 Pocono race) and 9.833 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. The rating is up 5 percent from the 5.8 last year, and the audience is up 6 percent from the 2004 audience of 9.275 million. Fox Sports research expects that this year's Nextel Cup coverage on the network will post a final 5.9 household rating, setting a new record for any NASCAR package
Now, the way I read this, the inclusion of Sonoma dropped the average from 6.1 to 6.0 - so how did the average go UP from 5% to 7%?
My info came from here:
Jayski
Well, for starters, I believe the IRL is up much more than 7% for the year and if you'll look over my previous post, I'm a bit curious about that 7% number.......I'm sorry, but this has to be the funniest statement I've read in a long time.
How many sports/series these days are seeing increases in ratings?
Only 7%
could it be total households?
No, the headline says 'ratings increased 7%.'
They averaged 5.8 last year and ended up at 6.0 this year. That's not an increase of 7% or 5% or even 4%. Something doesn't add up.
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9,600,000 / about 9,000,000 = about 1.06666.... or increase of: about 6.67%Fox averaged 9.6 million viewers per race, about 600,000 more than last year.
about 6.67% rounds to 7%
Probably the "7% in ratings" was supposed to be "7% in viewers" or some such thing.
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." --- Ayrton Senna
It does look like you are correct. 5.8 to 6.0 is certainly not 7%.
Oh well, it's still going up. I guess the bottom line will be when Fox writes the check.
Thanks. I wish I were smart.
Of course, NASCAR's gain is over an all-time HIGH. The IRL's gain is over an all-time LOW (so it's not really a gain, just a recovery of some loss). And the total amount of added viewers that make up NASCAR's 7% gain is probably greater than the total number of people who have watched the IRL thus far this year.
"It was actually fun, because you're back fully driving again in these trucks. Ninety percent of the tracks we go to in the IRL, you're flat-out. I was having to lift off the corners some here." - Buddy Rice
So their ratings increase was actually half of what they claimed.............
Oh, and most of this increase can be attributed to record numbers for the first 2 races; since late February, ratings are actually down......
I'm sure this is good news.
For starters, the increase is only 7%As I said earlier, if you're handing me dollars, I'll take 7% of 9.6 million over 50% of 1 million most days.Well, for starters, I believe the IRL is up much more than 7% for the year
Even if the math is skewed,
In dollars, I'd take 5% of 9.6 million over 20% of 1 million too.
Could one of the really smart people here please tell me how high the ratings will have to be for Fox to actually make a profit on this deal? Right now they are not. But hey, great ratings.
What is your 1 million supposed to represent or is it just made up for show.
I thought the network rating point was roughly (rounded) equal to 1 million? So an average of 6 would be roughly 6 million, right? Darn you Newton and your new math!
Last edited by Toonces; 06-30-2005 at 08:51 AM. Reason: math scares me
"Rejoice in hope, be patient in suffering, persevere in prayer."
Romans 12:12
For some unknown reason, FOX seems happy. I guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of check they write. That's when we'll know how good the news is.
The really smart people are the ones with the ability to sign the billion dollar contract. They seem to know the value.
Hey, that 100% increase from a 0.2 to a 0.4 can really make you patrickhappy if you're not careful.
NASCAR ratings thread typing time could be saved if you would just number the posts.
# 1 - NASCAR has high ratings.
with the responses:
# 2 - I hate NASCAR.
# 3 - NASCAR isn't what it was in 19**.
# 4 - Its all a bubble, its going to pop soon.
# 5 - But Fox/NBC don't make money on the deal.
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