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  1. 04-08-2006 07:47 PM #1
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    This oughta quiet the Danica bashers for a while...

    Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - Starting lineup:

    1) S. Bourdais 1 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:06.886
    2) J. Wilson 9 RuSPORT, 1:07.208 +0.322
    3) B. Junqueira 2 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:07.225 +0.339
    4) A. Allmendinger 10 RuSPORT, 1:07.249 +0.363
    5) M. Dominguez 7 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.301 +0.415
    6) P. Tracy 3 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.408 +0.522
    7) A. Tagliani 15 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.717 +0.831
    8) O. Servia 6 PKV Racing, 1:07.869 +0.983
    9) W. Power 5 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.965 +1.079
    10) C. da Matta 19 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:07.982 +1.096
    11) A. Pizzonia 8 Rocketsports Racing, 1:08.242 +1.356
    12) J. Vasser 12 PKV Racing, 1:08.246 +1.360
    13) D. Clarke 14 CTE Racing - HVM, 1:08.410 +1.524
    14) J. Heylen 11 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:08.641 +1.755
    15) N. Philippe 4 CTE Racing - HVM 1:08.647 +1.761
    16) A. Ranger 27 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:08.855 +1.969
    17) K. Legge 20 PKV Racing, 1:09.254 +2.368
    18) C. Zwolsman 34 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:09.554 +2.668
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  2. 04-08-2006 07:50 PM #2
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    No, now we'll just have another girl to bash.
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    I don't see how that will quiet the Danica bashers, but I'm sure we'll see a whole new breed of malcontents, the "Legge Bashers" using it for their own nepharious purposes.

    As for me, it looks like a rookie trying to get the feel for more the more powerful Champ Cars, which seems to take a while with Indycars too. Hopefully she'll get laps in and get that all valuable seat time everybody seem to think so highly of. To make me happy, all she has to do is keep it out of the tires and avoid shearing off a half-shaft on pit stops.


    It is however, now open season on Andrew Ranger. He really should be faster than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombardier R142
    ..."Legge Bashers"...
    I think these people have been around for years; heck there's a very popular show about them on HBO
    It is however, now open season on Andrew Ranger. He really should be faster than that.
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  6. 04-08-2006 08:12 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wilke
    Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - Starting lineup:

    1) S. Bourdais 1 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:06.886
    2) J. Wilson 9 RuSPORT, 1:07.208 +0.322
    3) B. Junqueira 2 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:07.225 +0.339
    4) A. Allmendinger 10 RuSPORT, 1:07.249 +0.363
    5) M. Dominguez 7 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.301 +0.415
    6) P. Tracy 3 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.408 +0.522
    7) A. Tagliani 15 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.717 +0.831
    8) O. Servia 6 PKV Racing, 1:07.869 +0.983
    9) W. Power 5 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.965 +1.079
    10) C. da Matta 19 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:07.982 +1.096
    11) A. Pizzonia 8 Rocketsports Racing, 1:08.242 +1.356
    12) J. Vasser 12 PKV Racing, 1:08.246 +1.360
    13) D. Clarke 14 CTE Racing - HVM, 1:08.410 +1.524
    14) J. Heylen 11 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:08.641 +1.755
    15) N. Philippe 4 CTE Racing - HVM 1:08.647 +1.761
    16) A. Ranger 27 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:08.855 +1.969
    17) K. Legge 20 PKV Racing, 1:09.254 +2.368
    18) C. Zwolsman 34 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:09.554 +2.668
    What is her percentage from the pole VS Danica at St.Pete? This is her 1st race, not her second season Actually she is Quicker than 5 IRL guy's if you use math. Plus we are comparing Danica to Dario, who has not won a championship in the IRL VS Sebastion , who has won 2 CCWS championships.I need to find St. Pete qualifying from last year to compare apples to apples.
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  7. 04-08-2006 08:16 PM #7
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    how about if we simply agree Ms Legge is simply a rookie - and seeminly a smart oneher inugaural big car start is a difficult and unforgiving street course - she is better being slow than wrecking
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  8. 04-08-2006 08:36 PM #8
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    Well, it's because Jim brought up te grid. St.Pete and Long Beach are similar. Danica in her 2nd season is 103.48% off the pole Katherene in her first CCWS race is 103.54% off the pole.The fact that Danica has more drivers behind her, than Ms. Legge, just shows the quality of the drivers, behind both. Zwolsman (last) was 103.98 % off VS Chesson who was 110.5 off the pole. 2 street courses with-in 2 sec. Now I have to do 2005 St. Pete. Thanks Jim.
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    I think Katherine is doing just fine. I'm sure her boss told her to go out, keep it out of the fence and get some seat time and bring the car home in one piece........which is pretty much what Danica was told last year.
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  10. 04-08-2006 08:58 PM #10
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    So why bring it up? She is certinally quicker on a street course than P.J. or Buddy, even Eddie.
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  11. 04-09-2006 12:22 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wilke
    I think Katherine is doing just fine. I'm sure her boss told her to go out, keep it out of the fence and get some seat time and bring the car home in one piece........which is pretty much what Danica was told last year.
    Yes, but when Danica was fastest most of the month of May, and just missed the pole because of a tiny mistake, followed by a great save.....we heard from Danica bashers everything that was wrong with her. When she took the lead at Indianapolis under green flag conditions and led until just a few laps to go......we heard from Danica bashers everything that was wrong with her. When Danica put on a little makeup and looked pretty nice in that Peak commercial....we heard from Danica bashers everything that was wrong with her. In fact, every time it didn't go exactly as planned....we heard from Danica bashers everything that was wrong with her. Hell, any time Danica did anything right.....we heard from Danica bashers everything that was wrong with her.

    No one can argue that the Danica bashers were ruthless.

    Now, I can't really wish anything but the best for Katherine, but it does seems a little odd that when Katherine is fighting to be next to last slowest........ champcar fans don't seem to feel like she deserves the same sort of scrutiny.

    I'de like to see both women do well, and you'll never find anything I've ever written that's negative about Katherine (use the search feature). Allot of people just aren't that fair about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray
    Well, it's because Jim brought up te grid. St.Pete and Long Beach are similar. Danica in her 2nd season is 103.48% off the pole Katherene in her first CCWS race is 103.54% off the pole.The fact that Danica has more drivers behind her, than Ms. Legge, just shows the quality of the drivers, behind both. Zwolsman (last) was 103.98 % off VS Chesson who was 110.5 off the pole. 2 street courses with-in 2 sec. Now I have to do 2005 St. Pete. Thanks Jim.
    I think you just helped make Jim's point
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    Quote Originally Posted by cleanupcrew
    how about if we simply agree Ms Legge is simply a rookie - and seeminly a smart oneher inugaural big car start is a difficult and unforgiving street course - she is better being slow than wrecking
    That's exactly what she did. Not a bad finish for her first race. The problem I think she will have is that she's not American, she's not attractive and she doesn't race at the Indianapolis 500, all things that Danica is or does. All IMO, of course.
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    Katherine is better looking in person. Not that it helps on TV. Danica certainly is photogenic though.

    The non-american thing doesn't seem to me, to be an issue. She's quite eloquent and speaks the queen's english perfectly well.

    Sarah Fisher was the most popular driver in the IRL for a time and she wasn't a Danica type either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamracer
    Katherine is better looking in person. Not that it helps on TV. Danica certainly is photogenic though.

    The non-american thing doesn't seem to me, to be an issue. She's quite eloquent and speaks the queen's english perfectly well.

    Sarah Fisher was the most popular driver in the IRL for a time and she wasn't a Danica type either.
    I don't have a problem with her not being American either. True about Sarah, but she never reached mainstream like Danica and I don't think Kat will either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamracer
    Katherine is better looking in person.
    Katherine looks just fine.
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    Never mind that...What I want to KNOW IS...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wilke
    Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - Starting lineup:

    1) S. Bourdais 1 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:06.886
    2) J. Wilson 9 RuSPORT, 1:07.208 +0.322
    3) B. Junqueira 2 Newman/Haas Racing, 1:07.225 +0.339
    4) A. Allmendinger 10 RuSPORT, 1:07.249 +0.363
    5) M. Dominguez 7 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.301 +0.415
    6) P. Tracy 3 Forsythe Championship Racing, 1:07.408 +0.522
    7) A. Tagliani 15 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.717 +0.831
    8) O. Servia 6 PKV Racing, 1:07.869 +0.983
    9) W. Power 5 Team Australia Racing, 1:07.965 +1.079
    10) C. da Matta 19 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:07.982 +1.096
    11) A. Pizzonia 8 Rocketsports Racing, 1:08.242 +1.356
    12) J. Vasser 12 PKV Racing, 1:08.246 +1.360
    13) D. Clarke 14 CTE Racing - HVM, 1:08.410 +1.524
    14) J. Heylen 11 Dale Coyne Racing, 1:08.641 +1.755
    15) N. Philippe 4 CTE Racing - HVM 1:08.647 +1.761
    16) A. Ranger 27 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:08.855 +1.969
    17) K. Legge 20 PKV Racing, 1:09.254 +2.368
    18) C. Zwolsman 34 Mi-Jack Conquest Racing, 1:09.554 +2.668
    Jim going to watch the race?!?!?!
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  18. 04-09-2006 02:11 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Cobain
    Jim going to watch the race?!?!?!
    No, I'm going to work in the yard some and watch the Masters. I'll record Long Beach and watch some of it.
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