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    They Are Lucky

    that Mr. Tony Stewart is not in the chase. Talk about a dominating car, he had one. Congratulations on an impressive win.

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    Tony won again? Anyone keeping track of the points using the old system?

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    Not taking anything away, Tony and the Home Depot Team are exceptional, but they have nothing to lose by going all out every race. The "chasers" have to walk soft and carry big sticks, look at Burton, Johnson and Kahne.

    Looked like Burton could pull it off without a victory, he wins one puttin him further out in front only to DNF , he now has no chance, realistically.

    Johnson looked like a bust now he and Knaus, the cheatin basturd, and the Lowes team are in the catbirds seat.

    Casey blows a friggin motor on a yellow flag lap, he mighta coulda had a chance, not gonna happen.

    Smoke and Zippy go balls to the walls each week and it's paying off in the win dept. as well as securing the 11 place spot which I believe pays a cool mil., not that they need it, and it also helps them somewhat for next year.

    Personally, I think the chase stinks.
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    that Mr. Tony Stewart is not in the chase.
    How does that make them lucky?

    Quote Originally Posted by JSR
    Tony won again? Anyone keeping track of the points using the old system?
    Somebody is. He'd still be a few hundred behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StatMan
    How does that make them lucky?



    Somebody is. He'd still be a few hundred behind.
    They said tonight, that if Tony was in the chase, he would be leading by like 3 points. But he isn't, and he ain't! But he is still kickin' everybody's butt!
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    Frankly, when you have a bunch of guys racing each other, without a common goal and motivation, you end up with phoney results..... In nascar, you have the ten chasers who are tippy toeing around stroking to a championship, you have the humiliated hot dogs, like Stewart, that didn't make "the chase" that have nothing to lose and go flat out for wins and you have the rest of the usual suspect losers who are driving over their heads trying make it into the top 35 points for guarenteed "franchise" starting spots"

    Racing should be set up so that the common goal and motivation for every driver is the same every time....... win the race.....

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    What's really ironic is they created "The Chase" to create a bigger buzz around the last ten races of the year...

    Just imagine the buzz that would be generated by Tony roaring from outside the top ten to the front had they not monkeyed with the points system...

    They all said nobody could come from that far back to the front...

    It would be funny if Tony proves them wrong, even if he won't get the trophy or cash...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac miller
    Frankly, when you have a bunch of guys racing each other, without a common goal and motivation, you end up with phoney results..... In nascar, you have the ten chasers who are tippy toeing around stroking to a championship, you have the humiliated hot dogs, like Stewart, that didn't make "the chase" that have nothing to lose and go flat out for wins and you have the rest of the usual suspect losers who are driving over their heads trying make it into the top 35 points for guarenteed "franchise" starting spots"

    Racing should be set up so that the common goal and motivation for every driver is the same every time....... win the race.....

    You don't know what you are talking about...JJ put a hard push on Stewart in the late stages...I was there I watched it...Stewart had 'em covered...your jealousy is noted...BTW: NASCAR better do something or Jr won't win the Championship...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardscrabble
    What's really ironic is they created "The Chase" to create a bigger buzz around the last ten races of the year...
    The only buzz the chase really creates, is the buzz of more money going into the nascar coffers!!

    On the telecast yesterday, they mentioned that if Stewart had been added to the chase as a 'wildcard' , he'd only be 13 points out of the lead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSR
    Tony won again? Anyone keeping track of the points using the old system?
    Right here
    http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83358
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    Just imagine the buzz that would be generated by Tony roaring from outside the top ten to the front had they not monkeyed with the points system...
    To the front?

    He'd still be over 350 points out of first with the old system assuming the race results would be exactly the same under the old system, which of course they would not be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StatMan
    To the front?

    He'd still be over 350 points out of first with the old system assuming the race results would be exactly the same under the old system, which of course they would not be.
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan
    You don't know what you are talking about...



    I think that if they are gonna have a 10 car/10 race runoff for the championship, it should be a 10 car/10 race runoff for the championship........ Everybody else gets the rest of the year off. If they are going to leave the rest of the 33 out there, they might as well go back to the old format......In fact, when any of the 10 runoff cars gets mathmatically eliminated from the championship they should be eliminated from any further events....... Oh yea! The points system should be 1 point for a win, 0 points for second on back.

    I really like to see a club have a real genuine champion ....

    .....Like the guy that wins the most races.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by StatMan
    To the front?

    He'd still be over 350 points out of first with the old system assuming the race results would be exactly the same under the old system, which of course they would not be.
    True. Some of those in the top ten might have to push their cars a bit to stay in the top ten...

    And you know what can happen when you're actually racing for something instead of just tooling around out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac miller
    I really like to see a club have a real genuine champion ....

    .....Like the guy that wins the most races.......
    Cool,

    Kenseth would have had his championship a year earlier. No problem.

    Of course, I cannot think of another sport (save college football some years) where the champion is decided solely on the most wins.

    And, since they have a 36 race season, I'm guessing they don't want some teams taking a week off here or there at tracks they don't have much success at. Getting all the cars to all the races may just have something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan
    your jealousy is noted
    Jealous of what? A series that googles up their points system for forced drama? He's making a valid point. Look at the bottom half of the Chase (6th-10th). They're so far behind now, they're basically tooling around for nothing, knowing that no matter what, they can't fall very far. There's still only really 2 cars alive. Jr and Hamlin need a lot of luck to even get close now. They all know they'll "make it on the stage" at the Waldorf. if it was open points, you'd see drivers battling just to hold on to a top 10 position.

    If the chase is so great, what the heck do you do if your Kasey Kahne? or Mark Martin. You could be like Busch last year and not even race the last two and still finish 10th. Battling for the top ten used to mean something because it meant a lot more money a chance to get on stage at the banquet, and a lot more meaning to the season. Some teams made that last push to climb into the top ten.

    Tony may not amass enough points to have taken over, but it would mean a lot more if things were normal, and he finishes say, 3rd in points instead of 11th. If he wins these last two (which is possible), again, NASCAR looks dumb with this goofy points charade.

    Speaking of points, didn't another series this year go down to the last lap and actually tie for the championship because is was so close?

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    Tony may not amass enough points to have taken over, but it would mean a lot more if things were normal, and he finishes say, 3rd in points instead of 11th.
    And, the two drivers with the best chance of winning right now would have been in a close battle without any re-setting of the points.

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    I think that if they are gonna have a 10 car/10 race runoff for the championship, it should be a 10 car/10 race runoff for the championship........ Everybody else gets the rest of the year off. If they are going to leave the rest of the 33 out there, they might as well go back to the old format......
    That doesn't make sense. If the Chase should mean that the mathematically eliminated cars all drop old, the old system should really have cars dropping out like flies since more cars will get eliminated earlier.

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