The new mayor was one of the guys that voted against the 4 million dollar handout. I think this time around they're going to look real good and hard at the numbers bandied about by the promoters of this race.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...l/16512531.htm
Huh, imagine that. Politicians acting in the communities best interest by reducing funding to boon-dogles like the San Jose GP and using he funding instead to improve parks and recreation. KK must not have paid protection to the new Mayor yet.
...Always follow the money
Translation: Kevin, whip out your checkbook.
...the Thrifty and Budget-Sensitive Defender of the IRL.
...or dump the race. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. Heck...it seems like publishing a schedule of dubious race dates that will have some cancellations down the road has turned into a CC tradition.Originally Posted by Defender
For the record, I never had a problem with CART in 1995. Its when they turned beligerant twards IMS and their fans for supporting the IRL that turned me off them.
DD, seriously, I'm gonna keep saying it.
IF YOU CANNOT STAND CCWS SO MUCH, WHY DO YOU KEEP COMMENTING ON IT?
San Jose is a crap track, and I won't shed a tear when its gone. But this constant pee-on-CCWS that you and a handful of others here do is borderling infuriating.
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Nobody is forcing you to come into the Biz forum Brent. I don't get what's so infuriating about a checkbook comment. Does it hurt because its true?
My viewpoint, from another thread....
''One sponsor is pointless. The series, IMO, has become pointless. The sooner they fold the tent, the sooner we move forward, not matter how slowly.
With CC continuing to limp along, we move backwards. Don't mistake me, I want CC done and gone and have no problems saying so. Despite the fans that love the series, CC is bad for open-wheel in America.''
...the spice must flow.....
He doesn't like them. So ignore him because his views are tainted because of his dislike, however in this case he's actually correct, if they want to keep the race without City help, they will have to raise ticket prices, or someone will have to write a check.
“After a month there's a couple of tar balls and a sick bird? I thought this was the worst environmental disaster of all time?.” Wilke
Agreed. And I watch CC so, you know, I would miss the extra OW races I get to see. But four years ago when KK bought up the corpse of CART I said that the only thing it was going to do was drag this thing out, limping along for the foreseeable future. I was partially right. I figured that if they were going to go through all of the bother of "saving" CART & all of it's traditions at least they were going to maintain a diverse schedule. Little did anyone know that they were going to turn into the "Festival of Speed" series, dumping all ovals and worrying about the drifters more than they were about the circuits they raced on.
I make no apologies for riding CCWS. They deserve it. They do it to themselves.
CC is bad for open-wheel in America.''[/QUOTE]
Have you been to the track? there's one problem area which was addressed in 2006, the rest of the circuit was quite fast and fairly wide. From Atlantic teams prospective it's actually a good event, good location and amenities. There isn't a track out there that hasn't had some form of renovation on a problem area.
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Which is true for both series, espially in May when your filling 33 spots with 18 fulltime cars.
Only NA oval racing.
If the CC teams wanted to race any ovals they would move to the IRL, what's stopping them?
Most of them already did and I was told at least one current CC team owner called TG very recently. Probably checking on Super Bowl tickets.
Don't hold your breath over NFL comming to INDY in January.
An Old Dead Cowboys quarterback is trying to drag the Stupid Bowl to the new Cryboy stadium in Arlington for 2011. Some guy by the name of Akeman?
Why? They already did. INDY is a great city...even when its 8 degrees outside.
18? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure there will be more.
$$$$If the CC teams wanted to race any ovals they would move to the IRL, what's stopping them?
“If somebody blocked you, you either hit ’em in the *** or got out of your car and beat their ***,” said A.J. Foyt
Much to your dismay, and thanks to the continuing futility of the club series of your choice, that won't be a problem this year.
Indy is the tourist haven in JanuaryWhy? They already did. INDY is a great city...even when its 8 degrees outside.
....just as it hasn't in any year since 1996.
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As Ganassi, Penske, Rahal, Fernandez, and Green have demonstrated, not much.
For those sticking around, Its because A) They own the series B) They Hate TG (Newman) or C) They don't have the money to compete
When you can pick up a new 2002 Dallara and spares for 50K I don't think $$$ is the problem.
The Colts won't get home field adv. next year?
Uh, Its costs a good 3-5 mil more to run in the ICS than OWRS. You know that. Your comments are beginning to become laughable.
"Detroit was the last cold weather game we're gonna." Gonna what? I suppose grammer isn't a strong suit up there in BC, or perhaps its a bit too much of the BC bud thats gone to your brain. I guess what you're refering to was the Super Bowl bid. This is a completely different subject than the CC train-wreck at San Jose, but I bet it would really chafe your hide to know that Tony George will have a hand in bringing the Super Bowl to Indianapolis if or when it happens.Indy is the tourist haven in January
Bingo. He has no problem with Indy hosting the Super Bowl. He has a problem with TG being involved. He's obsessed with TG. Its quite sad, actually.but I bet it would really chafe your hide to know that Tony George will have a hand in bringing the Super Bowl to Indianapolis if or when it happens.
2003 Dallara is as far back as you can go. I think they even redesigned the nose in 04. 50k?? link?
CCWS can't afford crash damage on ovals. That's why it is turning into these 3 day street festivals....
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...71128233ss.htm
http://oval.race-cars.com/carsales/o...66837725ss.htm
With spares
I bet they'd take 35K
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