It would be more appropriate.
Don't like it? Don't watch and don't hang out here.
Seems pretty simple to me.
It would be more appropriate.
Don't like it? Don't watch and don't hang out here.
Seems pretty simple to me.
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That's your problem, TD, always being negative about whiners. They have the right to their opinions too! If you don't like what they say why don't you just not read it? Gawd. Sheesh.
Originally Posted by skypigeon
That's your problem, TD, always being negative about whiners. They have the right to their opinions too! If you don't like what they say why don't you just not read it? Gawd. Sheesh.
There needs to be a forum called The Snake Pit, completely unmoderated save for Federal law stuff, and only those 18 and older can enter. Whining, backbiting, conniving, shouting, hatred, anger, love, passion...whatever...as long as it somehow relates to racing.
THIS...IS...OPEN-WHEEL!!!
Some people have religion. I happen to be one of them.
"If grown men and women wish to take such risks, that is their own business."
Ronald Reagan
"Be intolerant: because some things are just plain stupid."
THAT is a great idea
No he isn't...That's your problem, TD, always being negative about whiners.
...he can be negative about Tom Brady too!
He's versatile!!!!!!
"The number of threads by one poster in the OT is getting a little out of hand, IMHO. "
"In the land of freedom we are held hostage by the tyranny of political correctness...If we speak..we say it the wrong way; if we do not speak we are cowards…."
It already exists. That's not what TF is about, however, as I understand it.THAT is a great idea
This forum is a great idea! The P&M'ing polluting the ICS forum got old a long time ago. So put it all in here, another forum like the NASCAR and CC ones, that I will rarely visit. Thanks, Mods!
I agree exactly ... TrackForum is a place for rational, reasoned and intelligent discussion and civil debate .....
and in hindsight we shouldn't call this forum the "whiners" forum either - this is TrackForum, and within the rules all are entitled to their opinions ... trying this route - and at this point it IS an experiment - follows our path in other instances - where we try to give certain segments of membership a place to discuss topics they are inetrested in, without disrupting others use and enjoyment
the negativity and complaints - while legitimate to those making them - were affecting the use and enjoyment of the majority of members who are fans of the series - warts and all
now there is a place for those not happy with the direction of the series to express and discuss their concerns - here ...
...now if we could just keep those folks from posting on the other forums here.
edit - oops, I guess I might fall into that category, huh?!
...now if we could just keep those folks from posting on the other forums here.
edit - oops, I guess I might fall into that category, huh?!
Provided you're not a fan of that series.
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him."
-John Morley
seems pretty simple, you are trying a back handed way to try and censor people from saying whatever they want wherever they want
Not true...one can say most anything about NASCAR and CCWS...to remind the faithful about what was said years ago about CART is unwelcome however...
I think this board was a splendid idea.
How about the Island of Misfit Toys.
How is it censorship if a forum to air disagreements with the series is provided?
"I think of Indianapolis every day of the year, every
hour of the day, and when I sleep, too. Everything I
ever wanted in my life, I found inside the walls of
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway."
- Eddie Sachs.
and therein lies your problem - we do not allow people to say "whatever they want whenever they want" ..... we have community standards and rules that we expect all to follow
The following, from the IRL forum obviously meets the standards...
"People don't care where you're from, they care about what type of person you are. I guarantee , you'd be able to relate and be more comfortable shooting the **** with Scott Dixon than you would with Jeff Gordon. Gordon is about as real as Michael Jackson. He's one good nose job away from living in the "Neverland Ranch" and having pillow fights with teenage boys"
Comparing Gordon to Jackson seems a bit over the edge to me...but, I don't set the standards...
did you report it howard?
Cleanup how about the personal attacks me and Hendrix are getting from the "new" breed IRL fans.. If we attacked them like this we would be banned..
No one wants a Charley-in-the-box.How about the Island of Misfit Toys.
same answer - did you report them?
and if you'd read the comments - this forum was intended to try to help address the issue of negativity affecting the enjoyment of fans who still like teh series
Cleanupcrew, i did report them.. Twice now by the same poster..
then we must not have considered them a problem - since at least 4 mods and admins get every report to mod
Why...those posts that say something negative about the IRL are spotted quickly...we've been here before...this forum tells me all I need to know...
First - while I have argued with you several times, I don't think it has been personal. It shouldn't be and I shouldn't do it. (Unless I'm returning fire
Second - perhaps if you (and others) stopped referring to anyone who disagrees with you as a "new" fan that would help. Personally, I have become sick of people saying that anyone who doesn't agree with certain posters is new to the series. Many of us have been fans since long before the series began and were not CART fans once the split occurred. I have always watched whatever series raced at Indy in May (Not having cared a lick about sports-politics until the split, I've always considered the series at Indy to be IndyCars).
Many like me, wanted nothing to do with the bickering but still watched the racing. Just because we weren't on internet forums posting about it doesn't mean we didn't watch. Newer to TF does not mean new to watching the IRL.
Finally Chris (again I'm not trying to make it personal - I've just read your age in other posts and you are one of those who makes the "new" comments) I find it annoying to be told that my opinion is just part of the new breed by someone who wasn't born when I started watching the 500.
Edit to add - one thing I will admit to that I know is considered to be a trait of "new" fans is that I was really happy when Penske and Green returned. To me, based on who I watched growing up, it was great to have Andrettis and Penske back in the fold. I knew at the time that many were unhappy but to me it just meant everything was rounded out again. It somehow just seems right having them around in May (and the rest of the year).
mstove, i wasnt referring to you about the personal attacks.. I have no problem with people who disagree with me..First - while I have argued with you several times, I don't think it has been personal. It shouldn't be and I shouldn't do it. (Unless I'm returning fire
Second - perhaps if you (and others) stopped referring to anyone who disagrees with you as a "new" fan that would help. Personally, I have become sick of people saying that anyone who doesn't agree with certain posters is new to the series. Many of us have been fans since long before the series began and were not CART fans once the split occurred. I have always watched whatever series raced at Indy in May (Not having cared a lick about sports-politics until the split, I've always considered the series at Indy to be IndyCars).
Many like me, wanted nothing to do with the bickering but still watched the racing. Just because we weren't on internet forums posting about it doesn't mean we didn't watch. Newer to TF does not mean new to watching the IRL.
Finally Chris (again I'm not trying to make it personal - I've just read your age in other posts and you are one of those who makes the "new" comments) I find it annoying to be told that my opinion is just part of the new breed by someone who wasn't born when I started watching the 500.
Chris - I didn't think you were specifically referring to me, but I do know we have disagreed several times. I'm sometimes good at pushing the line a bit and have to watch it from time to time.
I just wanted to mention the old/new fan thing and why I think it is way to simple of a way to classify fans. Many of us don't fit into either side, based on how they are typically represented here.
Thanks, DIA, crew, rev, others. Negativity is spoiling the sport. Keep it here.
"Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"
Is there a "new" breed of IRL fan?
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