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  1. 09-19-2007 04:31 PM #1
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    What has he done

    What has this driver ever done in racing that he deserves all this



    The driver unveiled his line of candy bars, "Dale Jr.'s Big Mo'," at a candy expo in Chicago on Tuesday. Earnhardt had already signed personal services contracts with Adidas and Sony. He became the fourth athlete to receive a clothing line from Adidas, joining soccer's David Beckham, football's Reggie Bush and basketball's Tracy McGrady.

    Just think what Danica will receive after she wins a few races, and she is a whole lot better looking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco
    What has this driver ever done in racing that he deserves all this......
    he won the gene pool lottery
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  3. 09-19-2007 04:35 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco
    What has this driver ever done in racing that he deserves all this



    The driver unveiled his line of candy bars, "Dale Jr.'s Big Mo'," at a candy expo in Chicago on Tuesday. Earnhardt had already signed personal services contracts with Adidas and Sony. He became the fourth athlete to receive a clothing line from Adidas, joining soccer's David Beckham, football's Reggie Bush and basketball's Tracy McGrady.

    Just think what Danica will receive after she wins a few races, and she is a whole lot better looking
    Once again...

    Comparing Dale Jr. to Danica exposes one's complete and utter ignorance of the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9rows
    he won the gene pool lottery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco
    What has this driver ever done in racing that he deserves all this



    The driver unveiled his line of candy bars, "Dale Jr.'s Big Mo'," at a candy expo in Chicago on Tuesday. Earnhardt had already signed personal services contracts with Adidas and Sony. He became the fourth athlete to receive a clothing line from Adidas, joining soccer's David Beckham, football's Reggie Bush and basketball's Tracy McGrady.

    Just think what Danica will receive after she wins a few races, and she is a whole lot better looking
    Well he's a two time Busch series champion and has 17 Nextel Cup victories in his career. That's the main difference right now. And I bet Dale Jr is pretty good looking to women race fans. On top of being born into the third generation of stock car drivers in his family.

    What has Danica won again? She's never won in ICS and didn't win when she was in Atlantics as far as I can tell. She's a podium finisher at best so far.
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  6. 09-19-2007 05:02 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racewriter
    Once again...

    Comparing Dale Jr. to Danica exposes one's complete and utter ignorance of the sport.

    ...I believe you're looking too hard to find a NASCAR vs. IndyCar argument and missing the real point (or perhaps not).
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    What has he done?

    The simple answer: Sell tickets and contend on the track - people everywhere love him
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    Quote Originally Posted by carl s
    What has he done?

    The simple answer: Sell tickets and contend on the track - people everywhere love him
    Does Tony sell tickets, Tony has put a lot back into racing, he has not forgot where he came from or how he got where he is today, he has not demanded a part ownership in JGR

    IMO I do not think Jr has earned what he is receiving, Next year will tell, either I will come back after 2008 and say I was right or I will say I was wrong about Jr,

    Tony will out preform him in 2008, Tony will be in a car that no one on the JGR team knows anything about

    I would put a dinner on this in Blythe, that would be half way for each of us
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  9. 09-19-2007 06:29 PM #9
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    Beckham and Jr., overhyped marketing darlings of NewsMedia Corp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportscarBruce
    Beckham and Jr., overhyped marketing darlings of NewsMedia Corp.
    At least Beckham has accomplished something. His English National Team won the World Cup...oh wait... Not sure if any of the clubs he's played for have won championships.
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  11. 09-19-2007 07:45 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco
    Does Tony sell tickets, Tony has put a lot back into racing, he has not forgot where he came from or how he got where he is today, he has not demanded a part ownership in JGR

    IMO I do not think Jr has earned what he is receiving, Next year will tell, either I will come back after 2008 and say I was right or I will say I was wrong about Jr,

    Tony will out preform him in 2008, Tony will be in a car that no one on the JGR team knows anything about

    I would put a dinner on this in Blythe, that would be half way for each of us
    Rosco, you're an ok guy and racefan and the father of a real racer
    I'm just stating the obvious.
    The real world is not fair.
    people like Jr and that's why he's popular
    more or less skilled than others is extraneous to his popularity
    those other variables you mention I totally agree with
    I'll buy you a dinner in Blythe if TS does not outperform him
    but Jr will remain the marketing king
    If I had my way supermodifieds would rule the world
    but the're not as popular as late models @ Blythe Fairgrounds

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  12. 09-19-2007 08:01 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by carl s
    What has he done?

    The simple answer: Sell tickets and contend on the track - people everywhere love him
    Well I'm no fan of Junior's either, but he's also sold tickets and he contends enough to actually win races. And from what I've seen people love him everywhere too.

    Yes, similar to Danica in everything except the most important category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Cobain
    Well I'm no fan of Junior's either, but he's also sold tickets and he contends enough to actually win races. And from what I've seen people love him everywhere too.

    Yes, similar to Danica in everything except the most important category.
    He's Dale's son. He is not the best driver in NASCAR by far, but he's the most popular. He's also the future of the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racewriter
    Once again...

    Comparing Dale Jr. to Danica exposes one's complete and utter ignorance of the sport.
    Nonsense. Each are the most popular driver in their respective series. Maybe you should be more careful tossing around the term "ignorance"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rev-ed
    Nonsense. Each are the most popular driver in their respective series. Maybe you should be more careful tossing around the term "ignorance"...
    What do expect from a fan of the "I hate Indy Car Fan Club?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DapperDan
    Well he's a two time Busch series champion and has 17 Nextel Cup victories in his career. That's the main difference right now.
    Not too shabby IMHO
    Let me know when Montoya, Hornish, Villeneuve, and Franchitti have that many in Nascar combined.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nascarnation
    Not too shabby IMHO
    Let me know when Montoya, Hornish, Villeneuve, and Franchitti have that many in Nascar combined.....
    Let us know when Jr can take Turn one at 230mph
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  19. 09-19-2007 09:30 PM #19
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    This thread is a real winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSR
    This thread is a real winner.
    Well, Jr has been, 17 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Well, Jr has been, 17 times.
    in how many years?

    If his name with Smith, Jones or Gandhi he'd be looking over his shoulder every Silly season.
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    Yes, I guess you are correct. However, the fact remains, Dancia has no wins. But, she is popular. No question about that. She'll probably score her first win next year.
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    in how many years?

    If his name with Smith, Jones or Gandhi he'd be looking over his shoulder every Silly season.
    IIRC, other than Johnson, Stewart, Gordon and Kenseth nobody else has had as many wins as Jr. during the same time period. I think he'll do quite well next year driving for Hendrick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamM
    IIRC, other than Johnson, Stewart, Gordon and Kenseth nobody else has had as many wins as Jr. during the same time period. I think he'll do quite well next year driving for Hendrick.
    What he said. Jr is actually statistically one of the top drivers in the series. Last name and all. This year he's been doing poorly, but much of that can be blamed on the feud with Theresa and the fact he's leaving DEI.
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    What he said. Jr is actually statistically one of the top drivers in the series. Last name and all. This year he's been doing poorly, but much of that can be blamed on the feud with Theresa and the fact he's leaving DEI.
    Agreed.

    Jr's record puts him in the top tier of NASCAR drivers and furthermore by all accounts he's a decent guy with the sort of personality that makes it hard not to want to see him do well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamM
    sort of personality that makes it hard not to want to see him do well.


    yep
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamM
    Agreed.

    Jr's record puts him in the top tier of NASCAR drivers and furthermore by all accounts he's a decent guy with the sort of personality that makes it hard not to want to see him do well.
    Yep.

    Of course, some here manage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ
    in how many years?

    If his name with Smith, Jones or Gandhi he'd be looking over his shoulder every Silly season.
    To ditto what others have said and flesh it out with #'s:

    Since 2000, Dale Jr's rookie year, he is ranked:

    tied for 4th in total wins
    4th in top 5's
    6th in top 10's
    3rd in laps led
    his win % is 6th
    his top 5% is 5th

    If that doesn't make him a top 5 driver in Nascar, I don't know what does.

    the only drivers that consistently rank ahead of him are Tony Stewart, Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon.
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    I like Jr but he hasn't been particularly good the last two years. Isn't all about the the driver though. On the other hand DEI had a pretty good restrictor plate package their for awhile.

    I don't really recall watching that many, but Danica is the best woman driver I've ever watched. Still, I think comparing Jr to her is a stretch, to be polite.
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