Please explain to me again how this works in Nascar.
Please explain to me again how this works in Nascar.
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13th? The 9th fastest didn't qualify.
I'll give you the answers I've heard from those who defend this:
1) Had quals been open, they would have been bumped anyway.
2) They knew the rules going in so somehow that makes the rules ok.
3) Hah hah, at least NASCAR has more cars than starting spots and your lame OW series doesn't so that somehow makes the current NASCAR system hunky dory.
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OK. I read the paper through tired eyes about 4-5 hours ago. Memory's the first thing to go...Originally Posted by DaveL
I'll give you the answers I've heard from those who defend this:
1) Had quals been open, they would have been bumped anyway.
2) They knew the rules going in so somehow that makes the rules ok.
3) Hah hah, at least NASCAR has more cars than starting spots and your lame OW series doesn't so that somehow makes the current NASCAR system hunky dory.Thanks
Protectionism. Very unAmerican. Someone needs to mention that NASCAR is pure communism in action - it's just a new aristocracy keeping the plebs down and in their place. Nobody is allowed to be brilliant.
"An emphasis was placed on drivers with road racing backgrounds which meant drivers from open wheel, oval track racing were at a disadvantage. That led Tony George to create the IRL." -Indy Review 1996
You forgot "4) So where's open wheel running this week?"
It's not the 9th fastest car over the whole season to date.
In fact, it's not the 35th fastest car.
"Fast" isn't just qualifying, it's racing and finishing.
Some people complain about "what have you done for me lately" and this answers that, doesn't it?
Like qualify 9th out of 50 & get sent home?
Part of the issue here is that this was an "impound" race. Meaning you don't get to touch your car after qualifying. So if you know you are in the show due to being in the top 35, you qualify on a race set up.
So that guy who went 9th fastest but went home was qualifying against only the other cars in qualifying trim. The others (35 cars) were qualifying on a race set up.
So what does this tell us? If it had been an open qualifying where the fastest make the race and the slowest went home there is no telling where that car would have ended up.
It's a screwed us system in my opinion. NASCAR did this because of the idea that fans could get mad if they came to see Jeff Gordon and he failed to qualify. So the original idea was to lock in the stars and at the time it didn't seem like that bad of an idea. Fast forward to today and the influx of Toyota. Now you have all sorts of new teams/sponsors who now have just a slight chance of making the race.
Personally, I would still be interested in the race even if my favorite driver failed to qualify. Also as the tickets are purchased far in advance the gate wouldn't be harmed by this (the scalpers might take it on the chin). One way to test it for TV viewers is to see how the ratings fair in a race's second and third hour when one of the top drivers crashes early. If the ratings don't fall off then the reason that NASCAR started with doesn't hold.
I don't understand the point of having an "impound" race anyway.
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I think it's one of several moves they made to cut costs. It used to be a team showed up Friday, practiced with qualifying set-up, qualifying motor, perhaps practiced again. Did time trials. Then they changed the motor to the race motor, changed to race set-ups, practiced again, and maybe again. And raced with the race motor/setup. Thought to be a pretty expensive and pretty busy weekend.
Then they outlawed "qualifying motors." Anyone who was forced to change motors during the weekend would have to go to the back of the pack.
Then they opted for the top 35 lock in, and thus, actual time trials were closer and closer to meaningless. 35 cars, and sometime a couple more, knew for sure they were going to make the field. There was no reason to practice twice (before quals and after quals) since the motor was the same, and they also don't want to out unecessary miles on a motor they can't change for 500-600 miles. So qualify, and put them away. At the same time, severely limit testing during the year. In the long run, costs are still rising though, but it is an overall cost saving measure.
Why even qualify, lets just draw straws to see who starts the race and where they start.
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It's the one of the lingering benefits we get down here left over from the legislation that brought into being the Tennessee Valley Authority. The TVA is a federally owned corporation in the United States created by congressional charter in May 1933 to provide navigation, flood control, electricity generation, fertilizer manufacturing and economic development in the Tennessee Valley, a region particularly hard hit by the Great Depression. But while many people think it's something from the past it is still very much active and not just through the management of the electric power generated in all those dams they built so long ago.
This is under "economic development"... this rule that the TVA lobbied NASCAR hard to push through keeps a lot of rednecks down hear employed.
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