http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/40791/
According to this Speed article, two more IRL teams are going to be doing ALMS next year. Rumors indicate Bobby Rahal may be one of the teams. Who would the other be?Two Indycar teams are also expected to announce Porsche LMP2 programs for 2008.
Originally Posted by 246GT
I thought Rahal was already involved? If not him.....I'd say Gannassi and Vision(Both drop or add to their Grand-AM efforts)
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Right offhand, I'd say that only Ganassi and Rahal have the capability.
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If it is Rahal, it might be a place for young Graham to race if CC folds......
I don't think it will be Ganassi as I have a hunch - based on pure speculation only - that he is going to switch his Cup team to Toyota power and maintain or strengthen his ties to them which would impact his Toyota-powered Grand Am operation.
Rahal has a GT2 team. The rumor I heard is that he laid off 17 of his IRL team employees and will move up from GT2 to P2 in ALMS. The indication being he may be down to one IRL car. But it's just rumor so far.
Penske
AGR
Ganassi
RLR
Vision
Foyt
Panther (Super Aguri Panther)
Samax
D&R
Roth
Penske = 2 car Porsche LMP2 team
AGR = 1 car Acura LMP2 team
RLR = 1 car Porsche GT2 team
I dare say neither Roth, D&R nor Foyt have funds (or interest) to go ALMS racing.
That narrows it down to Ganassi, Panther, Samax and Vision. Ganassi has the funds, but already has a GA team...perhaps a change of series. Vision has a GA car, but probably is not willing to spend the money to change series. Panther?...perhaps Aguri Suzuki wishes to join the ALMS. Samax still does some GA.
Wild guess? Ganassi wants to play with AGR and Penske. RLR steps up to an LMP2 car.
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I don't think CC is folding but Graham may still race in a few ALMS events. Your thoughts on Ganassi may be correct. So which other team do you see starting an ALMS effort?
Rahal is not going to one car... give it a rest.
I'm guessing it will be Ganassi. If Vision was going to do anything it would be full-time Grand Am.
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Since no one else will take it for what it's worth, could it be Walker and NHL? After they fufill the previous rumors.
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SInce when did they become IRL teams?
Ganassi would be my bet. There's been rumors his Telmex/CompUSA funds are gone, and with it his GA effort.
About Graham, ... he'll be back in Champcar.
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If Sharp decides to be an owner/driver, I'd say there's a good chance RLR will be a one car team.Rahal is not going to one car... give it a rest.
From what I've heard Rahal is one of the two. The other?
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Might not be far from the truth. Have heard Scott say Patron-Sharp-Letterman-racing more than once. Question is would Sharp's team be more than one car?
This may have been pointed out already, but none of the money for the Ethanol or Patron programs in Indy Car competition are brought to Rahal with Rahal's doing. They are two programs that came to him and re-upped through 2009.
Rahal has a GT2 team. The rumor I heard is that he laid off 17 of his IRL team employees and will move up from GT2 to P2 in ALMS. The indication being he may be down to one IRL car. But it's just rumor so far.
GT246, I am going to call you out here on the lie because it is a disservice to others biting their nails here who you put under the impression that RLR is in a bind. They are not. They went through their normal layoffs for the winter (non-season) and are down to their regular winter staff.
No, it was not 17 people.
Ethanol and Patron are going to be back in 2008. Your assertions are merely CC fan wishful thinking and/or CC fan lies. I think it is 60/40 and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. Keep your nose clean because everyone here knows bullsh\t from Shiner Bock, OK?
Did I hear right that those Porshes cost $1,500,000?! How in the world do you swing THAT nut with the ROI you get with ALMS?
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If my aunt had cajones, she'd be my uncle. Scott Sharp is not becoming a team owner.
If Sharp decides to be an owner/driver, I'd say there's a good chance RLR will be a one car team.
Move on...this is the biggest waste of bandwidth here in a while.
This if/but scenario has the creedence of the NHL buying Dallaras thread. Until you here an announcement, limit the speculation to facts in reality - not conspiracy theories that fit into your agenda.
The ROI of the ALMS is actually quite high. The ALMS, by far, has the highest income earning and educated demographics in all of American professional racing. Companies need less eyeballs if a person at the race or watching on TV is willing to drop 50,000 on a product, and can easily afford to do it. It's why Audi and Porsche and Corvette and Acura and Ferrari and now Ford are there...
Excuse me? I posted a link to the article, which makes it more than just a rumor, but not yet fact. So why is it a waste of bandwidth and who are you to make that decision? What makes this a conspiracy theory?If my aunt had cajones, she'd be my uncle. Scott Sharp is not becoming a team owner.
Move on...this is the biggest waste of bandwidth here in a while.
This if/but scenario has the creedence of the NHL buying Dallaras thread. Until you here an announcement, limit the speculation to facts in reality - not conspiracy theories that fit into your agenda.
Where in that vapid editorial from Marshall Pruett (?) does it say that Rahal is falling apart and there will only be one car there and he has full control over the sponsorship of the Patron and Ethanol cars?
Excuse me? I posted a link to the article, which makes it more than just a rumor, but not yet fact. So why is it a waste of bandwidth and who are you to make that decision? What makes this a conspiracy theory?
Try again. This is wishful thinking on your part weakly based on what amounts to be a blog entry from a second rate sports car engineer. Try, try, try again.
Weak, weak, weak attempt, 246GT. You read between the lines to fit your agenda, which is sadly in need of soldiers like you to propagandize. Truly pathetic and weak, 246GT.
If you want to make a $5,000 bet right now to Brian's Wish as to whether or not Ethanol and Patron's cars will be on the ICS grid in 2008, come with now. Because I can assure you that I will win. How 'bout it, Popeye?
Got any facts to back yourself up with to go there? Didn't think so.
donahuefan - are your undies in a bunch today? I am just reading this thread, not participating and it is clear your radar in locked & loaded on this guy. Mellow out - it's just a forum.....
damilt is right MDF. 246GT has cast his line and has you hooked. Its best to let go and not let him reel you in.donahuefan - are your undies in a bunch today? I am just reading this thread, not participating and it is clear your radar in locked & loaded on this guy. Mellow out - it's just a forum.....
For the record, I never had a problem with CART in 1995. Its when they turned beligerant twards IMS and their fans for supporting the IRL that turned me off them.
Additionally, they only run a limited number of races, and run those with smaller crews. The "people" cost can be a lot cheaper than running an IndyCar Series team. Plus, the cars last a long time.
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Would that be a Fact or Fiction rumor? CompUSA was not on either car this year so I would take that as fact, Telemex was on the cars this year, so I take that as fiction
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Yet you are a major contributor to it...Move on...this is the biggest waste of bandwidth here in a while.
MDF, you're out of line. These were clearly labelled as rumors. Enjoy the next week elsewhere.
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This may have been pointed out already, but none of the money for the Ethanol or Patron programs in Indy Car competition are brought to Rahal with Rahal's doing. They are two programs that came to him and re-upped through 2009.
GT246, I am going to call you out here on the lie because it is a disservice to others biting their nails here who you put under the impression that RLR is in a bind. They are not. They went through their normal layoffs for the winter (non-season) and are down to their regular winter staff.
No, it was not 17 people.
Ethanol and Patron are going to be back in 2008. Your assertions are merely CC fan wishful thinking and/or CC fan lies. I think it is 60/40 and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. Keep your nose clean because everyone here knows bullsh\t from Shiner Bock, OK?
Is that a threat? Don't bother. I said it was a rumor, which it is, not fact, which it's not.
Where in that vapid editorial from Marshall Pruett (?) does it say that Rahal is falling apart and there will only be one car there and he has full control over the sponsorship of the Patron and Ethanol cars?
Try again. This is wishful thinking on your part weakly based on what amounts to be a blog entry from a second rate sports car engineer. Try, try, try again.
Weak, weak, weak attempt, 246GT. You read between the lines to fit your agenda, which is sadly in need of soldiers like you to propagandize. Truly pathetic and weak, 246GT.
If you want to make a $5,000 bet right now to Brian's Wish as to whether or not Ethanol and Patron's cars will be on the ICS grid in 2008, come with now. Because I can assure you that I will win. How 'bout it, Popeye?
Got any facts to back yourself up with to go there? Didn't think so.
I think you misunderstood what I said. The article which quotes the ALMS person (to which I also provided a link) as saying they were expecting 2 IRL teams to field new ALMS teams is the basis of my thread, which asks, which two teams would that. NO WHERE have I said or indicated these two teams were leaving the IRL. The only thing I said in that regard is the there is a RUMOR to the effect that RLR might be reducing their IRL effort to one car as part of their increasing the ALMS effort. I made no mention of sponsors leaving or taking Rahal to ALMS. You made that up. I never said RLR is falling apart, YOU did!
Your reading comprehension takes you where I have not gone.
My only question has been, if the ALMS guy is correct, which two IRL teams would be fielding ALMS efforts next year. Go back and read it for yourself!
Still think I was lying?This may have been pointed out already, but none of the money for the Ethanol or Patron programs in Indy Car competition are brought to Rahal with Rahal's doing. They are two programs that came to him and re-upped through 2009.
GT246, I am going to call you out here on the lie because it is a disservice to others biting their nails here who you put under the impression that RLR is in a bind. They are not. They went through their normal layoffs for the winter (non-season) and are down to their regular winter staff.
No, it was not 17 people.
Ethanol and Patron are going to be back in 2008. Your assertions are merely CC fan wishful thinking and/or CC fan lies. I think it is 60/40 and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. Keep your nose clean because everyone here knows bullsh\t from Shiner Bock, OK?
He hasn't been heard from in a while.
Well he was wrong on the last paragraph for sure. I thought it was boloney as well to think Sharp and Patron were going. But not everyone cannot be right all of the time.
But then again, we have the court battle ahead, so who's to say how it will end up. In any event, I, like MDF, was wrong on this one.
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