When is it going to end

[D. Heimgartner]

All this BS that we FANS have been subjected to in the past years, since g-damn 1996. Split. Hatred. Ovals, Road courses, festivals of speed. Fake weekend attendance. PR hyperbole. Exodus of our stars, the racers we supported. Watching rich, egomaniacs ruin our sport. Watching emasculated cars. Watchign blank sidepods or sidepods spoiled by second-rate BBQ sauces. Beign told that races where drivers hold the accelerator for 20 laps at a time are races. Following races on ESPN Ocho or Classic or whatevet the hell it is. Chicanes. Effin middle age, male cheerleaders. IPOs and lawyers. Spec engines and spec chassis and spec brains. Female drivers and adult websites in paddocks. Tony George giving Bernie E. the cold shoulder. Honda winning the500. Marco Andretti nearly winning the 500 (twice). Races at Palm Beach, Orlando, Dodger Stadium. No races at Michigan, California, or Brands Hatch . No Shell. No Marlboro. No KOOL. No PPG. No FedEx. No Western Union. No Greg Moore. No Zanardi. No Unser Jr. No desire to watch Nascar. Hoping for a merge. A reunion. A return to sanity. Rumors. Robin Miller's crap. Cant we all just get along. Cant we all just move on... Because I can't take much more of this. I can't.

[prhouch]

how many beers have you had?

[Sea Fury]

What's wrong with female drivers?

[Coyote Red]

[cleanupcrew]

What's wrong with female drivers?

whats wrong with beer?

[roadblock]

What's the roadblock to ending this slow death?

[Andrew Longman]

No Western Union?

Time to step away from the keyboard.

[debris on the track]

* excerpt from the book, On The Road ... the Open Wheel Years by Jack Kerouac.

[Mindervillain]

Is this the first Rapper we've ever had posting on TF? Maybe with a separate Hip Hop forum we'd attract more.

[Cosworth]

All this BS that we FANS have been subjected to in the past years, since g-damn 1996. Split. Hatred. Ovals, Road courses, festivals of speed. Fake weekend attendance. PR hyperbole. Exodus of our stars, the racers we supported. Watching rich, egomaniacs ruin our sport. Watching emasculated cars. Watchign blank sidepods or sidepods spoiled by second-rate BBQ sauces. Beign told that races where drivers hold the accelerator for 20 laps at a time are races. Following races on ESPN Ocho or Classic or whatevet the hell it is. Chicanes. Effin middle age, male cheerleaders. IPOs and lawyers. Spec engines and spec chassis and spec brains. Female drivers and adult websites in paddocks. Tony George giving Bernie E. the cold shoulder. Honda winning the500. Marco Andretti nearly winning the 500 (twice). Races at Palm Beach, Orlando, Dodger Stadium. No races at Michigan, California, or Brands Hatch . No Shell. No Marlboro. No KOOL. No PPG. No FedEx. No Western Union. No Greg Moore. No Zanardi. No Unser Jr. No desire to watch Nascar. Hoping for a merge. A reunion. A return to sanity. Rumors. Robin Miller's crap. Cant we all just get along. Cant we all just move on... Because I can't take much more of this. I can't.

That second rate BBQ sauce has 140 locations and 250M annual sales.

[lkchris]

It's not ending, it's changing.

It's changed from open-wheel, rear engine cars, to "spec" racers with fenders, engines in front, and plenty of sponsorship.

Tomorrow's race in Phoenix will feature three Indy 500 winners, including one former F1 World Champion. Same track, same drivers, different cars.

USA racing is alive and well. Everything changes, but it stays the same, too.

It's the drivers, not the machinery.

[Ken]

one evening there were two canibals sitting around eating a clown...

one turned to the other and said.....'Does this taste funny too you!?'

[Turn13]

* excerpt from the book, On The Road ... the Open Wheel Years by Jack Kerouac.

[Turn13]

one evening there were two canibals sitting around eating a clown...

one turned to the other and said.....'Does this taste funny too you!?'

Why don't cannibals eat clowns? They taste funny.

Tell it right if you're gonna tell it

[Turn13]

That second rate BBQ sauce has 140 locations and 250M annual sales.

I'd like to try it sometime.

Road trip!

[lou reed]

* excerpt from the book, On The Road ... the Open Wheel Years by Jack Kerouac.

[Ken]

Why don't cannibals eat clowns? They taste funny.

Tell it right if you're gonna tell it

but your way there is no parellels to AOWR

[aportinga]

Tony George giving Bernie E. the cold shoulder.

What the heck is wrong with that?

It's the best thing that TG has ever done!

I hope more venues start tossing F1 out

The only problem I see is that of we had one series we could destroy F1 hands down. They never have been more vulnerable amongst the existing fan base.

[AceRacing]

That second rate BBQ sauce has 140 locations and 250M annual sales.

Big Daddy's BBQ is that big?

[Coyote Red]

The only problem I see is that of we had one series we could destroy F1 hands down. They never have been more vulnerable amongst the existing fan base.

IMO the reason his fees have gotten so out of hand is because he basically has a monopoly.

[D. Heimgartner]

Sorry, boys. This this is an example of Posting Under the Influence (of beer).

[speedgeek]

Sorry, boys. This this is an example of Posting Under the Influence (of beer).

Sorry? Best post I've every seen in a long time.

[Dancingbear]

Sorry, boys. This this is an example of Posting Under the Influence (of beer).

HOLLAAAA

[Truth Detector]

how does a bbq sauce have locations? The only location I know of for my bbq sauce is my pantry.

[Andrew Longman]

The only problem I see is that of we had one series we could destroy F1 hands down. They never have been more vulnerable amongst the existing fan base.

Is this PUI (posting under the influence)?

Races in Richmond, Iowa, Kentucky, and Nashville are going to trump the international venues, massive corporate participation and worldwide TV audience of F1?

You might get more Americans to watch the IRL than F1, but kicking Bernie out of IMS hardly matters in that.

F1 is not at IMS because TG was bidding against the Indian government and he saw little reason to bring city, state of federal subsidies into it. He's almost certainly right. He might have gotten some dollars, but he was going to be outbid anyway.

Politically Americans are willing to spend billions of tax dollars on stick and ball stuff, but having an F1 race anywhere in the US is less important to Americans than it is to developing countries looking for a little newfound status and respect.

Actually, I don't know what damage it does to the US in terms of world opinion that we reject what the world considers the top form of motorsport and instead prefers a dumbed down, spec, oval racing series with a ******* heritage. It probably gets tossed in with what the world think of our current choice of President. (don't go there).

[Z28]

how many beers have you had?

Come on, his roommate signed in on his account while he was on holiday, that's the requisite excuse this year.

[indyracefan]

...passionate open-wheel race fan + internet message board + beer = the next day.

[Spike]

Two cannibals were having dinner. The first cannibal turned to the second and said "Ya' know, I don't like your sister."

[roach]

Two canibals were munching on a Missionary. One turns to the other and says, "This tastes horrible - how did you cook him?".

"I boiled him".

"No wonder it tastes bad - that was a Friar".

roach

[kikigirl]

"I ate his liver with fava beans and a little Chianti"